The Bus Station Posted April 6, 2009 Author Posted April 6, 2009 [quote name='Mr.CatholicCat' post='1825637' date='Apr 5 2009, 08:33 PM'][center][img]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_9NNc1xDXaO0/RquypEwlU6I/AAAAAAAABDo/IAYN8pnRBYw/s400/zzaintinct.jpg[/img][/center][b]This isn't meant as criticism[/b]; but it might be more accurately asked how often does one receives from the chalice or the species of wine. Since one always receives the “[i]Total Christ[/i]” in Holy Communion, regardless of what species one receives. This is being a bit picky, yes, but I wanted to make the comment since I put “[i][b]rarely[/b][/i]”.[/quote] Yes, I did think about this when I was making the thread title but I hoped people would catch my drift. I appreciate it though!
BG45 Posted April 6, 2009 Posted April 6, 2009 I intend to on Saturday, but for rather obvious reasons never have.
Luigi Posted April 6, 2009 Posted April 6, 2009 [quote name='BG45' post='1825789' date='Apr 5 2009, 10:36 PM']I intend to on Saturday, but for rather obvious reasons never have.[/quote] I know some Protestant denominations have Communion Sunday (maybe once a month?) and they have wine or grape juice on those days, but the friend I'm thinking of told me each member was given his/her own little tiny wine glass. It sounded "cute" and also a little paranoid; I controlled myself and didn't laugh.
Nihil Obstat Posted April 6, 2009 Posted April 6, 2009 I always feel rushed and uncomfortable when I did. Now I haven't in quite a few years. At this point it's more out of habit than anything. I'll probably start recieving the Blood eventually.
eagle_eye222001 Posted April 6, 2009 Posted April 6, 2009 [quote name='rose wrought of iron' post='1825609' date='Apr 5 2009, 07:39 PM']I used to, but then I got sick and have since stopped. [/quote] Yeah,......what I'm worried about. All it takes is one sick person. ---------------- Now playing: [url="http://www.foxytunes.com/artist/trapt/track/contagious"]Trapt - Contagious[/url] via [url="http://www.foxytunes.com/signatunes/"]FoxyTunes[/url] [quote name='MissyP89' post='1825618' date='Apr 5 2009, 07:48 PM']I never have...I don't drink red wine, and have a tendency to make an awful face no matter how hard I try to suppress it. I'd rather not take it before risking looking irreverent and immature. [/quote] You should have seen me on my First Communion day. I was home schooled and did it by myself and had never practiced with real hosts or had red wine. I almost didn't make it.
Brother Adam Posted April 6, 2009 Posted April 6, 2009 [quote name='BG45' post='1825789' date='Apr 5 2009, 11:36 PM']I intend to on Saturday, but for rather obvious reasons never have.[/quote] Right on. Welcome home. They offer the cup now to allow the laity the "fuller sign" of receiving under both species. There is nothing wrong with that reasoning and I submit myself to the Magisterium, however with the incredible irreverence for the Eucharistic Lord we have in many parishes since that decision was made I would like to see its use restricted. Along with irreverence I would like to see the use of EM's restricted until world wide proper catechesis is done to help the laity understand being an EM is humbling honor of great magnitude and not a right or matter of justice for women. I will typically receive the Precious Blood once per year, during the Easter season from an ordained person only, though I would probably be willing to receive from a seminarian as well.
Paladin D Posted April 6, 2009 Posted April 6, 2009 (edited) When I go up for Communion, I always consume both. I don't see anything wrong in it, afterall, "the twelve" received both at the Last Supper. I refrain from it only if I'm sick. I don't think it's very considerate to spread germs through the chalice (not the Precious Blood mind you). I did notice that in one particular parish in the Archdiocese of Philadelphia, only the priests consumed the Precious Blood. This was a Novus Ordo Mass, so I'm curious if it was a protocol set by Cardinal Justin Rigali, or something else. [b]Note:[/b] This was the only parish I've attended Mass within the diocese, so I don't know if it's diocesian wide. Edited April 6, 2009 by Paladin D
Aloysius Posted April 6, 2009 Posted April 6, 2009 [quote name='Brother Adam' post='1825907' date='Apr 6 2009, 12:41 AM'] Right on. Welcome home. They offer the cup now to allow the laity the "fuller sign" of receiving under both species. There is nothing wrong with that reasoning and I submit myself to the Magisterium, however with the incredible irreverence for the Eucharistic Lord we have in many parishes since that decision was made I would like to see its use restricted. Along with irreverence I would like to see the use of EM's restricted until world wide proper catechesis is done to help the laity understand being an EM is humbling honor of great magnitude and not a right or matter of justice for women. I will typically receive the Precious Blood once per year, during the Easter season from an ordained person only, though I would probably be willing to receive from a seminarian as well.[/quote] , restricted the way it was in 1967 by [url="http://www.adoremus.org/eucharisticummysterium.html"]Eucharisticum Mysterium[/url] (quote posted on page 1)!
Nihil Obstat Posted April 6, 2009 Posted April 6, 2009 [quote name='Brother Adam' post='1825907' date='Apr 5 2009, 10:41 PM'] Right on. Welcome home. They offer the cup now to allow the laity the "fuller sign" of receiving under both species. There is nothing wrong with that reasoning and I submit myself to the Magisterium, however with the incredible irreverence for the Eucharistic Lord we have in many parishes since that decision was made I would like to see its use restricted. Along with irreverence I would like to see the use of EM's restricted until world wide proper catechesis is done to help the laity understand being an EM is humbling honor of great magnitude and not a right or matter of justice for women. I will typically receive the Precious Blood once per year, during the Easter season from an ordained person only, though I would probably be willing to receive from a seminarian as well.[/quote] It would be so awesome to find a parish that had no EMHCs. I'm thinking along the lines of either multiple priests concelebrating or a whole corps of deacons. I'd switch parishes, I think. Although I do love our current priest.....
Apotheoun Posted April 6, 2009 Posted April 6, 2009 In the Byzantine Churches one receives the consecrated bread and wine together on a golden spoon.
Nihil Obstat Posted April 6, 2009 Posted April 6, 2009 [quote name='Apotheoun' post='1825975' date='Apr 5 2009, 11:44 PM']In the Byzantine Churches one receives the consecrated bread and wine together on a golden spoon.[/quote] (Which is very cool.) Do you have any pictures of this? I can't picture what it looks like.
Apotheoun Posted April 6, 2009 Posted April 6, 2009 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' post='1825978' date='Apr 5 2009, 10:46 PM'](Which is very cool.) Do you have any pictures of this? I can't picture what it looks like.[/quote] [img]http://www.geocities.com/theomimesis/communion.jpg[/img]
Nihil Obstat Posted April 6, 2009 Posted April 6, 2009 [quote name='Apotheoun' post='1826045' date='Apr 6 2009, 12:13 AM'][img]http://www.geocities.com/theomimesis/communion.jpg[/img][/quote] Interesting. Thanks. How is the Body distributed? Doesn't look like the sorts of wafers that we use would fit on that spoon there.
Apotheoun Posted April 6, 2009 Posted April 6, 2009 (edited) [quote name='Nihil Obstat' post='1826052' date='Apr 5 2009, 11:16 PM']Interesting. Thanks. How is the Body distributed? Doesn't look like the sorts of wafers that we use would fit on that spoon there.[/quote] The Byzantine Churches do not use unleavened "wafers"; instead, we use leavened bread that is cut into cubes by the priest during the prothesis (a.k.a., the proskomedia). Edited April 6, 2009 by Apotheoun
Apotheoun Posted April 6, 2009 Posted April 6, 2009 [quote name='cappie' post='1826087' date='Apr 5 2009, 11:30 PM']I always receive under both species [/quote] Me too.
Mr.Cat Posted April 6, 2009 Posted April 6, 2009 [quote name='The Bus Station' post='1825665' date='Apr 5 2009, 09:15 PM']Yes, I did think about this when I was making the thread title but [u][b]I hoped people would catch my drift[/b][/u]. I appreciate it though![/quote]I think they did, don't worry about it.
Sojourner Posted April 6, 2009 Posted April 6, 2009 [quote name='Lilllabettt' post='1825644' date='Apr 5 2009, 06:41 PM']Imho, that is pretty lame. ... Their mandate is to translate, not interpret.[/quote] In the dictionary I use, all the definitions of "chalice" involve the word "cup." I see no problem with translators choosing to translate into a word that is commonly used. The whole point of translating in the vernacular was to translate the Mass into words that everyday people could understand, and to make the meaning of the Mass accessible to the common person. It avoids confusion, so the focus can be on the reality of what's happening rather than on the use of uncommon terms. I think one can communicate reverence using the term The Cup just as clearly as with using the term The Chalice.
Archaeology cat Posted April 6, 2009 Posted April 6, 2009 Sometimes. I don't if I'm ill, obviously. [quote name='Luigi' post='1825799' date='Apr 6 2009, 03:42 AM']I know some Protestant denominations have Communion Sunday (maybe once a month?) and they have wine or grape juice on those days, but the friend I'm thinking of told me each member was given his/her own little tiny wine glass. It sounded "cute" and also a little paranoid; I controlled myself and didn't laugh.[/quote] Yes, that is how it was done at the Southern Baptist congregation I attended, and a Lutheran congregation I once visited.
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