Did We Leave Behind Too Many Of Our Jewish Roots?

[cmotherofpirl]

[quote name='pat22' post='1835396' date='Apr 14 2009, 05:43 PM']why can't we practice old traditions in light of the new covenant? Jesus did.[/quote]
He made St Peter head of his church and at the Last Supper He instituted NEW tradition, which replaced the old. Again, we are not jews.

[Apotheoun]

Jesus lived the ritual aspects of the Old Law in order to fulfill them. If you have been baptized into Christ you have lived all of those things in Him, and consequently you do not have to be circumcised physically, because you have been circumcised spiritually, etc.

The Church Fathers, who are normative in matters of theology, held that the judicial and ritual aspects of the Law have been fulfilled and transfigured in Christ into the sacramental structures of Christian worship. They would hold that it is heretical to celebrate the Old Testament feasts, because to do so fails to accept the work accomplished by Christ.

[pat22]

please quit saying we are not Jews, that is irrelevant.

[cmotherofpirl]

[quote name='pat22' post='1835405' date='Apr 14 2009, 05:56 PM']please quit saying we are not Jews, that is irrelevant.[/quote]
No it is not since you started the thread by asking about jewish elements and made the statement about being new jews. We do not celebrate jewish rituals or festivals because we are christian. Our roots are jewish, but the tree that grew from there is in the life of the church found in Christ. If for educational purposes you go to a seder that is fine, but we cannot celebrate what we left behind.

[pat22]

[quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1835429' date='Apr 14 2009, 05:10 PM']No it is not since you started the thread by asking about jewish elements and made the statement about being new jews. We do not celebrate jewish rituals or festivals because we are christian. Our roots are jewish, but the tree that grew from there is in the life of the church found in Christ. If for educational purposes you go to a seder that is fine, but we cannot celebrate what we left behind.[/quote]
you just flicked off this entire thread with that post. telling me we are not Jews IS irrelevant, do you think I'm stupid? if that's the best you got please don't post on my topic. Its just rude.

[pat22]

Did I just dis a moderator?

[cmotherofpirl]

[quote name='pat22' post='1836733' date='Apr 15 2009, 10:49 PM']Did I just dis a moderator?[/quote]
yep.
Its not your personal thread AND I am simply responding to premise of your question, you just don't like the answer. And since you don't believe me, Appy happens to be a theologian.

[Aloysius]

and I happen to be an armchair theologian. mwahahaha (and a plain-clothes moderator)

in all seriousness, Apotheoun has the degrees to back up what he says.

[Theoketos]

[quote name='Aloysius' post='1836745' date='Apr 15 2009, 10:02 PM']and I happen to be an armchair theologian. mwahahaha (and a plain-clothes moderator)

in all seriousness, Apotheoun has the degrees to back up what he says.[/quote]

So does Charles Curran.

[cmotherofpirl]

[quote name='Theoketos' post='1836767' date='Apr 15 2009, 11:23 PM']So does Charles Curran. [/quote]
now that was mean

[Theoketos]

[quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1836781' date='Apr 15 2009, 10:30 PM']now that was mean [/quote]

Mea Culpa, I love Appy. He is a much better theologian the Chalie Curran.

[cmotherofpirl]

[quote name='Theoketos' post='1836784' date='Apr 15 2009, 11:32 PM']Mea Culpa, I love Appy. He is a much better theologian the Chalie Curran. [/quote]
ANYBODY is a better theologian than charlie.

[pat22]

who's appy?

[cmotherofpirl]

Apotheoun [ one of our theologians] is in post 42, and listed here along with St Collette and Theokotos.

:http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?showtopic=7400

[pat22]

oh

[pat22]

so where were we?