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[Kurall_Creator]

[quote name='missionseeker' post='1856080' date='May 2 2009, 10:13 PM']yes i am in America, but, still. Generally a 70 is a C[/quote]

Not in Canada. If students in my course needed a 70 to go on to next year (and they would if that was a 2.0), only about 30 per cent would have been returning, instead of about 50 per cent.

Our standards are a little stiffer than the standards of American schools. If you show you can do it (that would be a C in America), you get a 60. If you put in more effort, then you get better marks, depending on how much effort you put in.

Trust me when I say this - I spent 25+ hours in home work every single week to get that 82. If you spent the same amount of time on assignments, what would you expect to get in return. . .

Edited May 3, 2009 by Kurall_Creator

[missionseeker]

I do spend that amount of time...

It smells of elderberries.

[MIKolbe]

[quote name='Kurall_Creator' post='1856065' date='May 2 2009, 09:01 PM']

Yesterday, someone filled out my form on my site and gave me the following ratings.

rating: 5

body: The game looks really good. Good luck with it!

[/quote]
that was me..

i lied.

[missionseeker]

[quote name='missionseeker' post='1856156' date='May 2 2009, 11:13 PM']I do spend that amount of time...

It smells of elderberries.[/quote]


I also go to a small, private, Catholic University with a curriculum that is more challenging than most other schools in the country.

[Kurall_Creator]

[quote name='MIkolbe' post='1856161' date='May 3 2009, 12:15 AM']that was me..

i lied.

[/quote]

Cool it ! You side with evil secret muslim pretty boys who don't give back 3-year overdue library books!

I have the e-mail address of the person who put that in (of course I wouldn't put it up here), and they weren't you !

Edited May 3, 2009 by Kurall_Creator

[Kurall_Creator]

[quote name='missionseeker' post='1856190' date='May 3 2009, 12:35 AM']I also go to a small, private, Catholic University with a curriculum that is more challenging than most other schools in the country. [/quote]

That explains a lot.

Private universities, especially in the States, get all their money from tuition from students. They don't care how many people they fail, because all money they get is paid by students. I feel sorry for you, you probably have to spend $10,000 a year on tuition, or more, and then living expenses, books, entertainment. I hope you're not going too much in debt.

And I feel sorry for the rest of the students who don't pass, and spend $15,000+ on a school year that was basically wasted.

My tuition is only $3,500, and I actually get on the deans list for spending a large amount of time on homework, which should be the case in any course. You spend 20+ hours on homework every single week - you should be on the deans list in any post-secondary course, because that takes dedication.

Edited May 3, 2009 by Kurall_Creator

[missionseeker]

I have a decent scholarship. I am in debt , but have already paid a little bit of it off. I don't always spend 20+ hours on homework. I should. But I also work 20 hours a week. and have 9 classes. so.. yeah.

[Kurall_Creator]

[quote name='missionseeker' post='1856266' date='May 3 2009, 01:29 AM']I have a decent scholarship. I am in debt , but have already paid a little bit of it off. I don't always spend 20+ hours on homework. I should. But I also work 20 hours a week. and have 9 classes. so.. yeah.[/quote]

You and SMM are hooking up, and he's Canadian, right.

This is the stuff you should be thinking about when it comes down to marriage, and where to live and stuff like that. Education in Canada is probably a little better, and cheaper than in the states.

[missionseeker]

I'll finish mine here. Then go up there. i'm almost done. we're not engaged yet. i doubt we'll be married by december of 10.

so i work and wait (im)patiently here.

[Kurall_Creator]

[quote name='missionseeker' post='1856280' date='May 3 2009, 12:47 AM']I'll finish mine here. Then go up there. i'm almost done. we're not engaged yet. i doubt we'll be married by december of 10.

so i work and wait (im)patiently here.[/quote]

LOL!

That is the most important lesson to learn as a Christian.

Everything is waiting on God, and if we get a little in the way, it's because we want it now. . .

Wanna hear something I've learned in my walk. Waiting always brings you into a much better situation than wanting it now. I waited a single year before I entered college again, and had $6,000 dollars saved up for it. . .

Everything with God is waiting on him to bring you into the right situation.

So, wait, and realize, this time of waiting is going to bring you into the right situation, and you will be more blessed by waiting, than wanting it now.

Edited May 3, 2009 by Kurall_Creator

[picchick]

[quote name='Kurall_Creator' post='1856237' date='May 3 2009, 01:09 AM']That explains a lot.

Private universities, especially in the States, get all their money from tuition from students. They don't care how many people they fail, because all money they get is paid by students. I feel sorry for you, you probably have to spend $10,000 a year on tuition, or more, and then living expenses, books, entertainment. I hope you're not going too much in debt.

And I feel sorry for the rest of the students who don't pass, and spend $15,000+ on a school year that was basically wasted.

My tuition is only $3,500, and I actually get on the deans list for spending a large amount of time on homework, which should be the case in any course. You spend 20+ hours on homework every single week - you should be on the deans list in any post-secondary course, because that takes dedication.[/quote]

For most of the students that fail I do not feel bad for. And I want to make it clear that I said most. Some kids just cannot do the work. However, I know so many kids who fail out of the school because they just do nothing. Furthermore, the private instutions are generally smaller than state schools. Therefore, there is generally smaller classroom sizes. This allows the professor the time to meet with students. Also, professors have office hours so that if you are having problems with something you can meet with them. So I do not feel bad for those students who do not try and waste their own money. The school can only do so much short of lighting a fire under their pants.

I worked my butt off to get the grades I got. I believe that the grading system should be higher. Maybe not in your case because you are in an art major and as you said, how do you grade art? Maybe they need to ditch completely a numeric scale and go for a more abstract grading scale such as "pass" "fail".

[Kurall_Creator]

[quote name='picchick' post='1856381' date='May 3 2009, 04:26 AM']For most of the students that fail I do not feel bad for. And I want to make it clear that I said most. Some kids just cannot do the work. However, I know so many kids who fail out of the school because they just do nothing. Furthermore, the private instutions are generally smaller than state schools. Therefore, there is generally smaller classroom sizes. This allows the professor the time to meet with students. Also, professors have office hours so that if you are having problems with something you can meet with them. So I do not feel bad for those students who do not try and waste their own money. The school can only do so much short of lighting a fire under their pants.

I worked my butt off to get the grades I got. I believe that the grading system should be higher. Maybe not in your case because you are in an art major and as you said, how do you grade art? Maybe they need to ditch completely a numeric scale and go for a more abstract grading scale such as "pass" "fail".[/quote]

How did this go from hey guys this is my official thread about what's happening with my super hero to, I don't like your grading system.

I know you mean well (well actually, this smells, so actually, I think you're kinda peeved, so you couldn't possibly mean well), but a C grade means you show you are proficient in the course. Well in America your schools say that is 70+. In Canada they give students who are proficient a 60. Saying someone is proficient in the topic is like saying, you are average. So, they grade something harder because if you're proficient, average - than you get a 60s, because you're just in the mid range. That means, a student put in 5-10 hours of homework in every week. People who get a B - which is 70s in Canada - and always has been - you're probably going to put in 15-20 hours - 2 to 3 times more work than the person who got a C. Not only are you showing your a proficient, but you are willing to put in extra effort to do something. If you get into the 80s - a rare thing in Canada, trust me - out of 66 people who entered with me in September, only me and a couple of others are in the 80s, than you are probably putting in 20-30 hours of home work in every single week - between 3 to 4 times more homework than the person who got grades int he 60s. Again, this shows proficiency, and extreme dedication to doing well.

Grading in Canada is harder than in the states, because we just mark harder. And yes, when someone fails, and doesn't go further in my course, I rarely think highly of them, because when I think of it, passing means you sit down and doing about 5-10 hours of homework, an hour after the last class, and 5 hours on Saturday, and you pass, and they'd rather be drinking and partying, well, you were asking for it.

So, lets stop the American marking system vs. Canadian marking system debate, and get back on topic. At least MiKolbe was commenting on my stuff about Kurall. . . And he agrees with evil pretty boy muslims who don't return overdue library books for 3-years!

[picchick]

[quote name='Kurall_Creator' post='1856456' date='May 3 2009, 12:36 PM']How did this go from hey guys this is my official thread about what's happening with my super hero to, I don't like your grading system.

I know you mean well (well actually, this smells, so actually, I think you're kinda peeved, so you couldn't possibly mean well), but a C grade means you show you are proficient in the course. Well in America your schools say that is 70+. In Canada they give students who are proficient a 60. Saying someone is proficient in the topic is like saying, you are average. So, they grade something harder because if you're proficient, average - than you get a 60s, because you're just in the mid range. That means, a student put in 5-10 hours of homework in every week. People who get a B - which is 70s in Canada - and always has been - you're probably going to put in 15-20 hours - 2 to 3 times more work than the person who got a C. Not only are you showing your a proficient, but you are willing to put in extra effort to do something. If you get into the 80s - a rare thing in Canada, trust me - out of 66 people who entered with me in September, only me and a couple of others are in the 80s, than you are probably putting in 20-30 hours of home work in every single week - between 3 to 4 times more homework than the person who got grades int he 60s. Again, this shows proficiency, and extreme dedication to doing well.

Grading in Canada is harder than in the states, because we just mark harder. And yes, when someone fails, and doesn't go further in my course, I rarely think highly of them, because when I think of it, passing means you sit down and doing about 5-10 hours of homework, an hour after the last class, and 5 hours on Saturday, and you pass, and they'd rather be drinking and partying, well, you were asking for it.

So, lets stop the American marking system vs. Canadian marking system debate, and get back on topic. At least MiKolbe was commenting on my stuff about Kurall. . . And he agrees with evil pretty boy muslims who don't return overdue library books for 3-years![/quote]

I didn't say specifically that I didn't like your grading system. Plus, I didn't make it into a debate Canada vs. America. And I don't see the reasoning that I can't discuss what everyone else is discussing.

I also should have specified that I like a harder grading system for some courses such as medical professions or teachers. Not that they have more important things to do in life but more because they have people's lives in their hands and I don't want someone who squeaked by taking care of me, my kids, or my family. Other than that, we have a saying: "C's get degrees."

I also addressed the fact that I do not feel sorry for kids who fail on their own accord which is a great deal of the failing kids.

I don't see why I couldn't discuss this. But ok. I can discuss your super hero if you like....

He needs to do something besides flying from the ceiling.

[Kurall_Creator]

[quote name='picchick' post='1856570' date='May 3 2009, 03:23 PM']I also addressed the fact that I do not feel sorry for kids who fail on their own accord which is a great deal of the failing kids.[/quote]

Are you a doctor or nurse or teacher?

Well, at my college, I know some nursing students and they need extremely high marks as well. Teachers too, and their marks are more of a knowledge based things. From what I heard, the pharmisutical test requires a perfect mark to proceed further, and I would expect that.

I don't know about how you would get into the deans list in such a program, and the nursing course has a high level of drop outs too. But, again, that is to be expected too. I wouldn't want someone who didn't have at least a 85+ in a nursing course to look after me. . .

In other fields, they are going to mark differently. They want just as proficient and knowledgeable people in the work place, but they mark things differently. I look at the marketing system of my two diplomas as this - They are giving you a percentage of how good you would be in the field - not how much you know. If you give an average effort, and produce average quality for the profession - you get a 60, because you are average. In other words, if you are just as good as most professionals in the industry when you graduate, they only give you a 60. You have to do much better than that to get higher marks.

And since all my professors are active in the industry still, but work full time at the college, they can decide that if you are ready for the industry as an average professional you only get a 60. The way I see it, they are marking you harder, not easier.

When I was getting my marks from my animation prof, and I got 2 B+s, 1 A-, and 2 As, the way he was talking, I give As(an 80) if you have done it perfectly, and higher marks when you go over and above what he asked and do that perfectly, and if there is room for improvement, I give you a different mark - but I since I did it very well, I got high marks. If you didn't put much effort and just did what he asked for, then you'd only get a C - a 60.

My diving assignment got an 80, because I took about 5 hours to animate, and I made sure it worked, and the animation didn't have any annoying twists in it. Had I done more than a diver, a board, and a cube to simulate water, and made a pool around the water, and a beach ball that he swam towards, and a splash using particles, I would get 90 or higher, because I am putting more effort.

That's how my profs grade - A (80) is when you do what they ask perfectly. You get lower marks if you did what they asked, but there were errors (be it small or large), and over 80 if you go over and above what they ask.

[quote name='picchick' post='1856570' date='May 3 2009, 03:23 PM']I don't see why I couldn't discuss this. But ok. I can discuss your super hero if you like....

He needs to do something besides flying from the ceiling. [/quote]

I take it you haven't seen the video or read the comic book yet -
[url="http://www.superheroisminc.com/issue_1.html"]http://www.superheroisminc.com/issue_1.html[/url]
[url="http://www.superheroisminc.com/vid_3.html"]http://www.superheroisminc.com/vid_3.html[/url]

Edited May 3, 2009 by Kurall_Creator

[Slappo]

In the states nursing is graded a lottt harder too.
At our university which has a pretty solid nursing program only 40 students are accepted in every year. It is super competitive as a lot more then that apply. If their grades drop too much (even if they are passing the class) they get booted from the program.

I'd be interested to know what your class sizes are like for designing Kurall! I think one of the reasons a lot of teachers have a harder time grading as hard as they should is because of class sizes in the 30's-50's of students in some of my classes. The teacher doesn't have as much time to dedicate to each individual's work. It's sad but it's how it is. I'd assume you have smaller class sizes and your instructor can work a little more with you one on one for designing? That's pretty cool if he can!

As for your video or comic, I haven't read or watched them yet. I've got a fiddler on my computer that blocks most everything (except phatmass) unless I'm around friends that disable it.