AdAltareDei Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 A few people on here have said that there are some teachings of the Church that they don't understand and can't really agree with but submit to the Church anyway, trusting in God. So if anyone is in that situation I wonder if they wouldn't mind telling us some of the teachings they find difficult to accept but do anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puellapaschalis Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 One of my Godchildren dragged me off to a pub on Sunday after Mass and demanded I teach her everything about the Church's teaching on euthanasia. She has a lot of nursing experience and her question was based on the Italian lady who had been in a coma for seventeen years. As someone who was received into the Church at Easter, she's very aware that there are many things she doesn't know, and that when she learns them, she'll have a tough time understanding them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrestia Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 It took me a while to wrap my mind around the Immaculate Conception of Mary. I remember asking several Catholic friends about it while I was in college. The ones who accepted it as truth didn't really understand it; and some who didn't understand it chose to decided that it wasn't important - so they didn't feel that it was wrong to disagree with it. I chose to accept it as truth - several years later, with prayer and study, I came to understand it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archaeology cat Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 [quote name='tgoldson' post='1858210' date='May 5 2009, 12:42 PM']It took me a while to wrap my mind around the Immaculate Conception of Mary. I remember asking several Catholic friends about it while I was in college. The ones who accepted it as truth didn't really understand it; and some who didn't understand it chose to decided that it wasn't important - so they didn't feel that it was wrong to disagree with it. I chose to accept it as truth - several years later, with prayer and study, I came to understand it.[/quote] Same here. I had trouble with some of the Marian beliefs, but I decided that I would submit and go ahead and be confirmed, and just learn as I could. Now that I've learnt more about them, I both agree with them and submit, but it took a lot of questions and research. And I certainly didn't immediately understand the Church's teaching on contraception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LouisvilleFan Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 [quote name='puellapaschalis' post='1858208' date='May 5 2009, 07:07 AM']One of my Godchildren dragged me off to a pub on Sunday after Mass and demanded I teach her everything about the Church's teaching on euthanasia. She has a lot of nursing experience and her question was based on the Italian lady who had been in a coma for seventeen years. As someone who was received into the Church at Easter, she's very aware that there are many things she doesn't know, and that when she learns them, she'll have a tough time understanding them![/quote] Just out of curiousity... the way you say that makes me wonder if there's something I'm not aware of. I would summarize Church teaching this way: that no action can be taken to directly kill a human life, though a person can be allowed to die if they are being kept alive only by extraordinary means, and all people should receive palliative care and medication. Is that off base, or is the complexity in judging what "extraordinary means" are in individual cases? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puellapaschalis Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 [quote name='LouisvilleFan' post='1858219' date='May 5 2009, 02:29 PM']Is that off base, or is the complexity in judging what "extraordinary means" are in individual cases?[/quote] The latter, I believe. From what I can gather, it's the question of whether food and hydration (no matter how enriched it might be) is medicine (and thus "extraordinary means") that seems to be a stumbling block for many people I've met. That and "If someone falls into a coma somewhere in the middle of nowhere in Africa where there's no-one to look after them, how can we justify keeping someone alive for 17 years?" My declaration that the latter is also a hefty "ethical question" drew me a furrowed brow. But understanding can't come from just one conversation, and I hope I impressed strongly enough that prayer has to be engaged if we really do want to understand the things we find difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdAltareDei Posted May 5, 2009 Author Share Posted May 5, 2009 Hey I just thought, if we believe in the dogma of the assumption of the blessed virgin. Does that mean that we have to believe heaven is an actual physical place? In the sky? It kind of would, wouldn't it.... A physical body needs a physical area and physical confines to dwell in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slappo Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 [quote name='AdAltareDei' post='1858230' date='May 5 2009, 06:03 AM']Hey I just thought, if we believe in the dogma of the assumption of the blessed virgin. Does that mean that we have to believe heaven is an actual physical place? In the sky? It kind of would, wouldn't it.... A physical body needs a physical area and physical confines to dwell in.[/quote] Not necessarily in the sky... She could have been raised up into heaven being lifted up and then teleported or something. Beam me up scotty It does mean there has to be a physical heaven for our physical bodies. We are a body soul composite and our person is not complete if our body is not present. Therefore if we are to be perfected in heaven, we must have bodies otherwise we will be incomplete. We cannot be incomplete and perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puellapaschalis Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 When I was younger (a little after my Confirmation) I remember struggling with the Church's teaching that only men could be ordained as priests. For a while I had defended this (or at least tried to) to my friends, and then one day I was at Adoration and decided to assent and let it go. It's only now, several years later, that I'm really beginning to understand it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 Never understood or cared for the not killing people who annoy me rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havok579257 Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 never understood the whole open to life ending proper thing when your already pregnant since your obviously open to life already. i've just come to terms, the church just throws a large net out for all things dealing with sex and deal with it that way, in a generalized way that will cover most cases and just have the rest fall under the banner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisChildForever Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 As I learned more about the faith, my issues were - women priests, contraception, and homosexual civil unions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VoTeckam Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 (edited) 1) Opposition to a permanent female diaconate 2) the celibate priesthood Edited May 5, 2009 by VoTeckam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havok579257 Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 (edited) also that paralegic men, paralyized from the waist down are not allowed to get married in the catholic church, when Mary never had sex according to the church and was lawfully married to her husband. Edited May 5, 2009 by havok579257 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Posted May 5, 2009 Share Posted May 5, 2009 [quote name='VoTeckam' post='1858419' date='May 5 2009, 12:00 PM']2) the celibate priesthood[/quote] Join another Rite and this issue will be solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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