dominicansoul Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 i remember when i first met Fr. Cutie, I thought that he was too handsome to be a priest. I say this with all due respect. I'm not saying that only unattractive people should enter the religious life. I'm saying that for those who are obviously blessed with extraordinary good lucks, it may be a whole lot tougher to fight the temptations that will surely come their way. I watched his interview this morning on CBS, and although I was happy that he wasn't condemning celibacy of the priesthood, I was sad that he is actually thinking of leaving the Catholic Faith all together in order to pursue a relationship that will only give him pleasure in this life. He definitely needs our prayers. I find it sad, that a priest is given [i]10 years to discern if they should take vows and get ordained into the celibate life[/i]. If he has struggled so much, as he admitted this morning on the television new show, why did his superiors ever allow him to take the plunge and get ordained? I just shake my head in disbelief over all this. You know what I think? I think Mother Superiors need to teach male clerics how it's done. In the last 10 years there is hardly any scandal associated with religious sisters. Maybe because most of the Mother Superiors I have known aren't afraid to drop the gauntlet where they need to, and get tough with those who they see obviously have no vocation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariaane Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 [quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1864290' date='May 11 2009, 10:08 PM']Ok, this thing with the child molesters... you must remember many times that good bishops for the longest time were told by reputable certified shrinks that these people simply "needed a new start, were cured, it wouldn't happen again, it was due to stress- releive the stress on they would be ok" etc. and to move them to a new parish. Some of it was intentionally criminal - but much of it was not.[/quote] Oh, I agree. This certainly did occur with secular shrinks. [quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1864290' date='May 11 2009, 10:08 PM']Also remember it was the policy of every public and private school when discovering a compromised teacher to do EXACTLY the same thing - hush it up and transfer to another district. So lets stop throwing stones at the church for doing what they were suggested to do by competant professionals.[/quote] This is something I have brought up repeatedly on other forums. No more than 4% of priests were guilty of molesting children, but the occurrence of child abuse is much more prevalent within schools than it is by a priest. There is also a statue of limitations which limits the time that a student can make a complaint about an abusing teacher. No statute of limitations exists for people who wish to make a complaint of sexual abuse against a priest. That means that people can allege a complaint of sexual abuse against a priest that took place 50 years ago. I think the timeframe within schools is about a year (or less). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagle_eye222001 Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 [quote name='ariaane' post='1864364' date='May 11 2009, 05:39 PM']To be honest, I think this sort of thing goes on quite [i]a bit[/i] in the priesthood. Fr Cutie is a hottie and he probably had stacks of women pestering him and tempting him to fall. Not to mention that he was based in Miami, the place where women practically strut around in bikinis. Which brings to mind the [b]Pope[/b] who fathered illegitimate children a few centuries back...[/quote] I think it was more than a few centuries back. There were a couple popes who who ......less than decent. However that is another thread. Not sure your point in bringing this up. This is hardly a big problem though in perspective. Think of how many priests who do remain faithful to their vows. You hear all this media on a few bad cases and what is ignored is the priests, sisters, and brothers who do remain faithful to their vows. Not sure what your main point is. ---------------- Now playing: [url="http://www.foxytunes.com/artist/lostprophets/track/rooftops+(a+liberation+broadcast)"]Lostprophets - Rooftops (A Liberation Broadcast)[/url] via [url="http://www.foxytunes.com/signatunes/"]FoxyTunes[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 I dont think a priest should be thrown under the bus if they fall and have some sort of relationship with a woman. Ya it's wrong and breaking their vow but they should get to go to confession like everybody else and it should be over with. In my opinon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatherineM Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 I'm not sure it is appropriate to discuss how sexually attractive a member of our ordained clergy is. I certainly wouldn't publicly discuss my feelings of lust for a priest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariaane Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 [quote name='eagle_eye222001' post='1864388' date='May 12 2009, 12:08 AM']I think it was more than a few centuries back. There were a couple popes who who ......less than decent. However that is another thread. Not sure your point in bringing this up. This is hardly a big problem though in perspective. Think of how many priests who do remain faithful to their vows. You hear all this media on a few bad cases and what is ignored is the priests, sisters, and brothers who do remain faithful to their vows.[/quote] I just thought I’d mention it because we in the Church, have been inundated with reports of sexual relations occurring between priests and boys, that we’ve kind of overlooked the reality that there are probably as much, if not more priests having relations with women- in particular when they look like Fr Cutie. As for the Pope who had children, I was just reminding people that if a Pope of all people, can fall, then so can a priest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franciscanheart Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 [quote name='Delivery Boy' post='1864320' date='May 11 2009, 03:48 PM']omg he is so dreamy !!!![/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinytherese Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 [quote name='Delivery Boy' post='1864410' date='May 11 2009, 06:23 PM']I dont think a priest should be thrown under the bus if they fall and have some sort of relationship with a woman. Ya it's wrong and breaking their vow but they should get to go to confession like everybody else and it should be over with. In my opinon. [/quote] True, they can be redeemed but when it is a big public story like this it makes it difficult to go through since so many people will remember what you have done for a long time and the effects of scandal have been done. Redemption can still happen but its not something just gets over with easily. It reminds me of The Scarlet Letter actually. He definitely needs praying for. I can't imagine how hard this must be on him andc his loved ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinytherese Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 [quote name='CatherineM' post='1864415' date='May 11 2009, 06:26 PM']I'm not sure it is appropriate to discuss how sexually attractive a member of our ordained clergy is. I certainly wouldn't publicly discuss my feelings of lust for a priest.[/quote] I was thinking the same thing. I don't like it when a priest is referred to as "hot." There's a young priest at the parish that I attend while away at my current college that some have commented on his good looks but those comments died down a long time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 You can find someone goodlooking without lusting after them can't you ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinytherese Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 [quote name='Delivery Boy' post='1864440' date='May 11 2009, 06:43 PM']You can find someone goodlooking without lusting after them can't you ?[/quote] True, but usually when the word "hot" is used that does not have to do with their temperature it means that they are sensuously appealing. I just don't like the terms "hot," "hottie," or saying that you feel hot for someone or that you have the hots for someone. They sound lustful. Why not just say handsome, gorgeous, pretty, or beautiful? Those sound like much more respectful adjectives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 [quote name='tinytherese' post='1864446' date='May 11 2009, 06:50 PM']True, but usually when the word "hot" is used that does not have to do with their temperature it means that they are sensuously appealing. I just don't like the terms "hot," "hottie," or saying that you feel hot for someone or that you have the hots for someone. They sound lustful. Why not just say handsome, gorgeous, pretty, or beautiful? Those sound like much more respectful adjectives.[/quote] See what you're sayen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 [quote name='tinytherese' post='1864437' date='May 11 2009, 06:39 PM']True, they can be redeemed but when it is a big public story like this it makes it difficult to go through since so many people will remember what you have done for a long time and the effects of scandal have been done. Redemption can still happen but its not something just gets over with easily. It reminds me of The Scarlet Letter actually. He definitely needs praying for. I can't imagine how hard this must be on him andc his loved ones.[/quote] See what you're sayen again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominicansoul Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 What is also sad is how much unfaithfulness, cheating, stealing, crime and violence take up so much of our attention in the media...especially when a good guy goes down... there seems to be zero interests in stories about the countless priests who are faithful to their vows and to God... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariahLVzJP2 Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 [quote name='CatherineM' post='1864415' date='May 11 2009, 05:26 PM']I'm not sure it is appropriate to discuss how sexually attractive a member of our ordained clergy is. I certainly wouldn't publicly discuss my feelings of lust for a priest.[/quote] I totally agree with you CatherineM. It just seems inappropriate and sort of irreverant to call a priest "hot." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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