Popular Latino Priest Caught In Sex Scandal

[dominicansoul]

[quote name='CatherineM' post='1865424' date='May 12 2009, 03:06 PM']It's possible he didn't mention in formation that he was having these conflicts. Seminarians are just as worried about getting kicked out as priests are worried about getting accused of something. Last semester one of seminarians in my class said something to another one, and the guy said, "better not let Fr. X hear you say that." He's the formation director. I think they think it is normal to have these questions. Sometimes it can be hard to know when thinking about a teaching evolves into questioning a church teaching.[/quote]

but celibacy is such an important aspect of the priesthood. you would think he shared it with somebody...or have enough sense to recognize it would definitely be an impediment to perseverence in the priesthood...

that's pretty sad, when seminarians are afraid to share what is inside with their superiors. what do they think formation is all about???

[tinytherese]

[quote name='ariaane' post='1865305' date='May 12 2009, 02:13 PM'][i][color="#000080"]''I would like to have a family and at the same time serve God,'' Cutié said. `` I have friends -- Episcopalian bishops, Baptists, friends in the American Bible Society -- and they have shown me that it is possible to do both.''
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When did he come to this decision?...

[url="http://www.miamiherald.com/news/southflorida/v-fullstory/story/1040795.html"]http://www.miamiherald.com/news/southflori...ry/1040795.html[/url][/quote]

True they can marry as well but I doubt that they would approve of scandalous behavior.
That's what I find disturbing is that his supporters seem to be overlooking the fact that the act itself was scandalous even if he were free to marry.

[mariahLVzJP2]

Please pray for all of our priests; they really need our prayers. I have a feeling that this isnt going to be the only scandal of this sort in the Church in times to come.
The enemy is on the prowl

[Archaeology cat]

[quote name='mariahLVzJP2' post='1865662' date='May 13 2009, 01:13 AM']Please pray for all of our priests; they really need our prayers. I have a feeling that this isnt going to be the only scandal of this sort in the Church in times to come.
The enemy is on the prowl [/quote]
Isn't the 'year of the priest' starting in June?

[ariaane]

Looking at the other side of the story- Fr Cutie’s Delilah (We all know how Sampson lost his strength and how it all ended for him)


[img]http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/05/07/article-1178344-04D9031F000005DC-330_468x324.jpg[/img]

What we know about her:

1. She is 35 years old
2. She is a laywoman
3. She is a mother
4. She is divorced
5. She may not have received an annulment so any sexual activity she engages in is adultery
6. She has known Fr Cutie for about 10 years, which means her relationship with Fr Cutie began just after he was ordained, or during his formation.
7. The two became romantically involved in the last two years
8. They have been sexually intimate which means they may have been using contraception
9. Her child may have known about her affair with the priest as it’s been going on for two years, and so he/she may have had to endure the stress of keeping such a secret.
10. Some of Fr Cutie’s superiors/ other clergymen knew about his affair with this woman for a long time, yet the affair continued.
11. Even if Fr Cutie and the woman do get married, they may not be able to get married in the Church due to her current sacramental marriage.

Now, I’m not going to let Fr Cutie off the hook, but the woman did know he was a priest from the get go- a popular one at that- who must have known that him being caught doing wrong would send shockwaves throughout the body of the Church.

Where is the criticism on her part, considering that she is a grown woman and mother who should have known better than to tempt a man of God?

Some words from a blog:

[url="http://causa-nostrae-laetitiae.blogspot.com/2009/05/father-cutie-unecessary-scandal.html"]http://causa-nostrae-laetitiae.blogspot.co...ry-scandal.html[/url]

[b]Popularity puts a priest in a precarious position for temptation by women who should know better. [/b]They both need our prayers, better priestly formation, and a wise superior who can see trouble coming a mile away. I maintain that if Mother Angelica were herself when that young widow came looking for Fr Stone to counsel her, she would have sensed danger and given her a good nun to speak with; result a good priest saved from temptation to leave his vocation and be stuck pushing the health drink zrii.

Or when the good looking parish priest who officiated at my wedding had a long line of young women waiting to speak to him after Mass every Sunday. Could trouble be far behind? Fr Tom didn't make it, he left the priesthood, married, and now works as a professor at a Catholic College. Such a loss to the Church. [b]The last time I heard him talk at a community college, we was praising the wonders of Islam.
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[Archaeology cat]

[quote name='ariaane' post='1867050' date='May 14 2009, 01:24 PM']6. She has known Fr Cutie for about 10 years, which means her relationship with Fr Cutie began just after he was ordained, or during his formation.[/quote]
That doesn't necessarily follow. I first met my husband, as far as I can remember, during my 2nd year at uni. We didn't start dating, and didn't have a relationship, until after I'd graduated, so 2 years later. Or, for another example, my sister has known her boyfriend for 8 years, but didn't actually begin a relationship with him until around 2 weeks ago.

[ariaane]

[quote name='Archaeology cat' post='1867064' date='May 14 2009, 02:58 PM']That doesn't necessarily follow. I first met my husband, as far as I can remember, during my 2nd year at uni. We didn't start dating, and didn't have a relationship, until after I'd graduated, so 2 years later. Or, for another example, my sister has known her boyfriend for 8 years, but didn't actually begin a relationship with him until around 2 weeks ago.[/quote]

What I meant is that their friendship (relationship) began 10 years ago, and Fr Cutie admits being immediately being attracted to her.

So he's been lusting after her for a decade, and possibly through her marriage.

What's kinda creepy is that while he was desiring her for all these years, he may have been her confessor...

To imagine the kind of thoughts he may have been having if she was confessing her sexual sins to him...

[bonkers]

[quote name='CatherineM' post='1865124' date='May 12 2009, 10:36 AM']Priests aren't doctors. They therefore take the advice of experts when it comes to something they aren't schooled in. My husband gets called when a priest in this diocese is dealing with someone with schizophrenia or their family because that is his expertise.

Since when are satanists pedophiles or visa versa? Do you know something the rest of us don't? Perhaps you're a member here scouting?

Don't worry about puking to posts. I puke about yours pretty much every time. I'm just surprised you didn't stay under your rock.[/quote]

Why were they even referred to psychologists for? Boy rape is a crime, schizophrenia is a mental illness. What if a priest was raping female parishioners or nuns, would it be appropriate to seek him treatment for his "illness", transfer him to another parish or send him to someone like your husband with "expertise" in that area? What about justice and treatment for the victims? Clearly the bishops intentions were highly negligent, and probably malicious. Or are priests above the law?

[Archaeology cat]

[quote name='ariaane' post='1867068' date='May 14 2009, 02:13 PM']What I meant is that their friendship (relationship) began 10 years ago, and Fr Cutie admits being immediately being attracted to her.

So he's been lusting after her for a decade, and possibly through her marriage.

What's kinda creepy is that while he was desiring her for all these years, he may have been her confessor...

To imagine the kind of thoughts he may have been having if she was confessing her sexual sins to him...[/quote]
Ah, gotcha. Sorry for misunderstanding.

[bonkers]

[quote name='HisChildForever' post='1865157' date='May 12 2009, 11:11 AM']What???

The bishops, clearly at an absolute loss regarding the situation (priests - HOLY men called by God to serve God and community in a most complete way - molesting small children) decided to consult psychologists who are PROFESSIONALS when it comes to the mind. The bishops, in good faith, trusted these mental health care professionals. Perhaps a lot of the bishops, not being able to fathom the crimes these holy men performed, realized that the only way it was possible for these priests to commit such atrocities was if they truly were so stressed out that they were not in the right frame of mind. Was this wrong? Clearly yes. But the bishops who took the professionals in good faith and were unaware of the extent of pedophilia (not aware that it is NOT a "one time thing") simply moved the priest(s) to another parish, trusting that this was the solution.

NO ONE HERE is defending what those bishops did but rather EXPLAINING why some of the bishops did it. NOT ALL of the bishops were criminal.[/quote]

I'm sure if they were little girls being fondled you wouldn't be so quick to defend the bishops. At a loss? C'mon, peadophilia is a horrid, evil crime. These are crimes that should've been punished. They way they were dealt with was obviously an act of self-preservation without little regard or care for the welfare of the victims. The bishops probably sought the quickest and easiest way of dealing with the problem without facing it head on, for fear of it becoming a public issue. They tried to sweep it under the rug rather than deal with it like morally righteous people should. They are totally culpable, as bad as any of the offending priests.

Edited May 14, 2009 by bonkers

[StColette]

After reading through this thread, I believe the main purpose has been lost. VoTeckam posted the news article and then asked that we pray for this priest. I'm not saying that yall haven't been praying. But it looks like a lot of meaningless gossip and speculations about a priest and his behavior. I believe discussions about the priest and his behavior should be left up to his superiors, not to us. What good is it doing us to discuss and speculate on such things?