Alan Keyes Arrested At Notre Dame

[dUSt]

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Did nobody post this yet?

[TotusTuusMaria]

boo on notre dame.

[KnightofChrist]

Yay for Alan Keyes.

[HisChildForever]

Obama is speaking at a graduation, not a pro-choice event.

[havok579257]

So is Alan Keyes comitting sin by not following the rules of law here? There was a debate a while ago about us as catholics having an obligation to follow all laws unless they are morally wrong. It seems the law, the trespassing law is not morally wrong. So is this considered a sin?

[TotusTuusMaria]

[quote name='HisChildForever' post='1864860' date='May 12 2009, 01:42 AM']Obama is speaking at a graduation, not a pro-choice event.[/quote]

Obama is also receiving an "honorary award [u]of law" [/u]



not to mention, by his presence at the college and the award giving is defying the bishops of the US

Edited May 12, 2009 by TotusTuusMaria

[TotusTuusMaria]

[quote name='havok579257' post='1864861' date='May 12 2009, 01:43 AM']So is Alan Keyes comitting sin by not following the rules of law here? There was a debate a while ago about us as catholics having an obligation to follow all laws unless they are morally wrong. It seems the law, the trespassing law is not morally wrong. So is this considered a sin?[/quote]

possibly.

i still say boo on notre dame and yay on alan keyes

[KnightofChrist]

[quote name='HisChildForever' post='1864860' date='May 12 2009, 12:42 AM']Obama is speaking at a graduation, not a pro-choice event.[/quote]

Declining Notre Dame: A Letter from Mary Ann Glendon

By Mary Ann Glendon
Monday, April 27, 2009, 9:32 AM

April 27, 2009
The Rev. John I. Jenkins, C.S.C.
President
University of Notre Dame

Dear Father Jenkins,

When you informed me in December 2008 that I had been selected to receive Notre Dame’s Laetare Medal, I was profoundly moved. I treasure the memory of receiving an honorary degree from Notre Dame in 1996, and I have always felt honored that the commencement speech I gave that year was included in the anthology of Notre Dame’s most memorable commencement speeches. So I immediately began working on an acceptance speech that I hoped would be worthy of the occasion, of the honor of the medal, and of your students and faculty.

Last month, when you called to tell me that the commencement speech was to be given by President Obama, I mentioned to you that I would have to rewrite my speech. Over the ensuing weeks, the task that once seemed so delightful has been complicated by a number of factors.

First, as a longtime consultant to the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, I could not help but be dismayed by the news that Notre Dame also planned to award the president an honorary degree. This, as you must know, was in disregard of the U.S. bishops’ express request of 2004 that Catholic institutions “should not honor those who act in defiance of our fundamental moral principles” and that such persons “should not be given awards, honors or platforms which would suggest support for their actions.” That request, which in no way seeks to control or interfere with an institution’s freedom to invite and engage in serious debate with whomever it wishes, seems to me so reasonable that I am at a loss to understand why a Catholic university should disrespect it.

Then I learned that “talking points” issued by Notre Dame in response to widespread criticism of its decision included two statements implying that my acceptance speech would somehow balance the event:

• “President Obama won’t be doing all the talking. Mary Ann Glendon, the former U.S. ambassador to the Vatican, will be speaking as the recipient of the Laetare Medal.”

• “We think having the president come to Notre Dame, see our graduates, meet our leaders, and hear a talk from Mary Ann Glendon is a good thing for the president and for the causes we care about.”

A commencement, however, is supposed to be a joyous day for the graduates and their families. It is not the right place, nor is a brief acceptance speech the right vehicle, for engagement with the very serious problems raised by Notre Dame’s decision—in disregard of the settled position of the U.S. bishops—to honor a prominent and uncompromising opponent of the Church’s position on issues involving fundamental principles of justice.

Finally, with recent news reports that other Catholic schools are similarly choosing to disregard the bishops’ guidelines, I am concerned that Notre Dame’s example could have an unfortunate ripple effect.

It is with great sadness, therefore, that I have concluded that I cannot accept the Laetare Medal or participate in the May 17 graduation ceremony.

In order to avoid the inevitable speculation about the reasons for my decision, I will release this letter to the press, but I do not plan to make any further comment on the matter at this time.

Yours Very Truly,

Mary Ann Glendon

[fides quarens intellectum]

[quote]Activists including Randall Terry[/quote]

i was just waiting for that line in the report...

[HisChildForever]

[quote name='TotusTuusMaria' post='1864921' date='May 12 2009, 02:52 AM']Obama is also receiving an "honorary award [u]of law" [/u]



not to mention, by his presence at the college and the award giving is defying the bishops of the US[/quote]

You don't need to be rolling your eyes at me.

[quote name='KnightofChrist' post='1864930' date='May 12 2009, 02:59 AM']Declining Notre Dame: A Letter from Mary Ann Glendon

By Mary Ann Glendon
Monday, April 27, 2009, 9:32 AM

April 27, 2009
The Rev. John I. Jenkins, C.S.C.
President
University of Notre Dame

Dear Father Jenkins,[/quote]

Thanks for the letter, it was interesting and cleared things up.

[TotusTuusMaria]

[quote name='HisChildForever' post='1865136' date='May 12 2009, 11:55 AM']You don't need to be rolling your eyes at me.[/quote]

[picchick]

[quote name='TotusTuusMaria' post='1865139' date='May 12 2009, 11:57 AM'][/quote]

uhhhh....what are we? Like five years old here?


And I am probably the only one on this note...I do not agree with what Keyes did.

[HisChildForever]

[quote name='picchick' post='1865246' date='May 12 2009, 01:27 PM']uhhhh....what are we? Like five years old here?[/quote]

Which is why I ignored it.

[quote]And I am probably the only one on this note...I do not agree with what Keyes did.[/quote]

Nope, I agree with you. (See my first post in this thread.) While I now understand why people are protesting Obama's presence at the graduation - frankly I see it more of a protest against the university and not the President himself - I see no grounds for turning the protest into an anti-abortion campaign. Especially since Keyes was notified that he was not permitted to protest on school grounds.

[Apotheoun]

God bless Mr. Keyes and those who stood with him.

[Apotheoun]

Mr. Obama should not be allowed to speak at any Catholic institution due to his immoral stance on the lawfulness of murder in connection with the unborn (and even the newly born).