Parish Councils

[Spence06]

[quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1875931' date='May 26 2009, 08:54 PM']You don't need liturgy sheets, you need the organist to pick the music and the priest to fill them in on any special details of the particular Mass.[/quote]

A lot of priest like to use binders and although most of it you can get online, there is a lot of particular work that needs to be done.

[Resurrexi]

[quote name='Spence06' post='1875509' date='May 26 2009, 02:03 AM']Spending a lot of time with many priests, I think a parish council is almost always needed as well as liturgy committees or at least a few people to help set up liturgy sheets. Having to do them myself at school, it is very time consuming and a pain sometimes. The days of three or four priests in a rectory are over in a wide majority of places. A good council is only as good as the priest makes it. I also think more important then that is a good finance council. Proper teaching can help the parish become a dynamic and strong parish with all these people working together under the priest.[/quote]

Maybe if the newer form of the Mass were always celebrated with the options that would make it have the most continuity with the older form (e.g. Eucharistic Prayer I, inclusion of the Confiteor), there would be a need for liturgy committees.

Also, instead of hymns, why don't we use the Gregorian Propers? They are the actual music of the Roman Rite, you know.

[loveletslive]

i think a liturgy committee is needed in some parishes. my parish has 5 sunday Masses so there is a TON of coordinating of servers, music, EMHCs, readers to be done that our priests don't have time to do.

[Resurrexi]

[quote name='loveletslive' post='1876161' date='May 26 2009, 10:53 PM']EMHCs[/quote]

I don't think EMHCs should be used at regular Sunday Masses.

[cmotherofpirl]

[quote name='loveletslive' post='1876161' date='May 26 2009, 11:53 PM']i think a liturgy committee is needed in some parishes. my parish has 5 sunday Masses so there is a TON of coordinating of servers, music, EMHCs, readers to be done that our priests don't have time to do.[/quote]
Thats why a parish has secreteries. You don't need a committee to do a sunday Mass.

[Spence06]

[quote name='Resurrexi' post='1876156' date='May 26 2009, 11:52 PM']Maybe if the newer form of the Mass were always celebrated with the options that would make it have the most continuity with the older form (e.g. Eucharistic Prayer I, inclusion of the Confiteor), there would be a need for liturgy committees.

Also, instead of hymns, why don't we use the Gregorian Propers? They are the actual music of the Roman Rite, you know.[/quote]

I think there is nothing wrong with using Gregorian music but not to the exclusion of the more modern music. Which at some point, all music is secular and then accepted as "sacred" in a few centuries. so ya never know.

[cmotherofpirl]

[quote name='Spence06' post='1876149' date='May 26 2009, 11:48 PM']A lot of priest like to use binders and although most of it you can get online, there is a lot of particular work that needs to be done.[/quote]
No not unless you are doing a big affair, its a Mass not a performance.

[Resurrexi]

[quote name='Spence06' post='1876188' date='May 26 2009, 11:01 PM']I think there is nothing wrong with using Gregorian music but not to the exclusion of the more modern music. Which at some point, all music is secular and then accepted as "sacred" in a few centuries. so ya never know.[/quote]

I think modern music is good for use in liturgy, too. Modern polyphonic and symphonic compositions, that is.

[Spence06]

[quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1876191' date='May 27 2009, 12:02 AM']No not unless you are doing a big affair, its a Mass not a performance.[/quote]

Why would using a lighter, more organized binder mean its a performance?

The sacramentary is still used on the altar but I know especially when there is no server, the binder comes in very handy with many things for the priest.


Res, we just have two different ways of getting to the same goal and I can respect that.

Edited May 27, 2009 by Spence06

[loveletslive]

[quote name='Resurrexi' post='1876179' date='May 26 2009, 11:00 PM']I don't think EMHCs should be used at regular Sunday Masses.[/quote]

me either. but it would take awhile for 600 people to receive communion from 1 priest...

[Archaeology cat]

[quote name='Resurrexi' post='1876156' date='May 27 2009, 03:52 AM']inclusion of the Confiteor),[/quote]
Maybe I'm weird, but I find myself hoping every week that we'll have the Confiteor. Of course, I also find myself hoping we'll have the Kyrie in Greek.

[OraProMe]

This sounds horrible, but I can't wait till the 60 year old liberal women on the parish council and my Vatican II loving priest reach the age where they physically can't do anything around the parish.

I'm looking forward to getting a newly ordained priest and watching the parish council fill with young, fresh, orthodox blood.

Once that happens I'll stop travelling half an hour each Sunday to my Cathedral.

[OraProMe]

Also, adding on to what Resurexxi said, I love it when the priest uses the confiteor and the Roman Canon for the Mass.

It'd be great if the Vatican got rid off all these options.

[Resurrexi]

[quote name='OraProMe' post='1876501' date='May 27 2009, 05:58 AM']my Vatican II loving priest[/quote]

I love Vatican II... interpreted in light of Tradition.

[OraProMe]

You know what I mean.
Hermeneutic of rupture priest, works better.

[Resurrexi]

You might do well not to fall into hermeneutic of rupture in regards to the interpretation of Dignitatis Humanae.

[Apotheoun]

[quote name='Resurrexi' post='1876179' date='May 26 2009, 09:00 PM']I don't think EMHCs should be used at regular Sunday Masses.[/quote]
I agree. It is an abuse to use Extraordinary Ministers every Sunday.

[Apotheoun]

[quote name='loveletslive' post='1876212' date='May 26 2009, 09:13 PM']me either. but it would take awhile for 600 people to receive communion from 1 priest...[/quote]
More time to pray!

[Resurrexi]

[quote name='Apotheoun' post='1876524' date='May 27 2009, 08:17 AM']More time to pray![/quote]

[CatherineM]

[quote name='Apotheoun' post='1876524' date='May 27 2009, 07:17 AM']More time to pray![/quote]

Our church uses 8 EM's at a mass that has less than 50 people. We hardly get through one song before we are done. It's like talking to the wall though to change it. Hopefully our new Basilian priests coming in will put things right.