Why Be Religious When Your Young?

[Hassan]

[quote name='Oliver' post='1874534' date='May 24 2009, 08:39 PM']This is a question my sister asked me. Why be religious when your young? Why cant I enjoy myself now and then be religious when im much older?

I really think this is what the majority of my generation think. What if they sin now and forgive in later life while others have prayed there whole lives. I will be honest I didnt have an answer for her.[/quote]


I'm aiming for a death bed conversion

[Resurrexi]

Wouldn't that be a re-version for you?

Edited May 25, 2009 by Resurrexi

[Hassan]

[quote name='Resurrexi' post='1874858' date='May 25 2009, 01:42 PM']Wouldn't that be a re-version for you?[/quote]


No


I was never a Hasidic Jew

[Resurrexi]

Why would anyone ever become a Hasidic Jew? Catholicism is the only religion worth converting to.

[Hassan]

[quote name='Resurrexi' post='1874865' date='May 25 2009, 12:50 PM']Why would anyone ever become a Hasidic Jew? Catholicism is the only religion worth converting to.[/quote]


Anti Semite

[Brother Vinny]

[quote name='Hassan' post='1874866' date='May 25 2009, 01:51 PM']Anti Semite


[/quote]

A Semite is a descendant of Shem, one of Noah's sons.

Judaism, in this context, is a religion.

Not all Semitic people are Jews (some are even Catholic), and not all Jews are Semitic.

[Resurrexi]

Hassan was kidding

[Hassan]

[quote name='Brother Vinny' post='1874870' date='May 25 2009, 12:57 PM']A Semite is a descendant of Shem, one of Noah's sons.

Judaism, in this context, is a religion.

Not all Semitic people are Jews (some are even Catholic), and not all Jews are Semitic.[/quote]




Not from a scientific point of view anyway.

As to the rest, sure. I was just kidding. I have no intention of becoming a Hasidic Jew, nor so I believe Resurexi is an Anti-Semite.

[Hassan]

[quote name='Resurrexi' post='1874871' date='May 25 2009, 12:58 PM']Hassan was kidding [/quote]


Don't try to make light of your obvious anti Semitism

[Brother Vinny]

[quote name='Resurrexi' post='1874871' date='May 25 2009, 01:58 PM']Hassan was kidding [/quote]

I know; I'm in a pedantic mood.


[quote name='Hassan' post='1874872' date='May 25 2009, 01:59 PM']

Not from a scientific point of view anyway.[/quote]

Not sure to which science you refer.

[Hassan]

[quote name='Brother Vinny' post='1874879' date='May 25 2009, 01:09 PM']Not sure to which science you refer. [/quote]
In Medieval Europe, all Asian peoples were thought of as descendants of Shem. By the nineteenth century, the term Semitic was confined to the ethnic groups who have historically spoken Semitic languages. These peoples were often considered to be a distinct race. However, some anti-Semitic racial theorists of the time argued that the Semitic peoples arose from the blurring of distinctions between previously separate races. This supposed process was referred to as Semiticization by the race-theorist Arthur de Gobineau. The notion that Semitic identity was a product of racial "confusion" was later taken up by the Nazi ideologue Alfred Rosenberg.[citation needed]

Modern science, in contrast, identifies a population's common physical descent through genetic research, and analysis of the Semitic-speaking peoples suggests that they have some common ancestry. Though no significant common mitochondrial results have been yielded, Y-chromosomal links between Semitic-speaking Near-Eastern peoples like Arabs, Assyrians and Jews have proved fruitful, despite differences contributed from other groups (see Y-chromosomal Aaron). Although population genetics is still a young science, it seems to indicate that a significant proportion of these peoples' ancestry comes from a common Near Eastern population to which (despite the differences with the Biblical genealogy) the term "Semitic" has been applied. However, this correlation should rather be attributed to said common Near Eastern origin, as for example Semitic-speaking Near Easterners from the Fertile Crescent (including Jews) are generally more closely related to non-Semitic speaking Near Easterners, such as Iranians, Anatolians, and Caucasians, than to other Semitic-speakers, such as Gulf Arabs, Ethiopian Semites, and North African Arabs.[7][8][9]
[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic#Religion"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic#Religion[/url]

[Resurrexi]

Because wikipedia is such a great source of information

[Hassan]

[quote name='Resurrexi' post='1874900' date='May 25 2009, 02:22 PM']Because wikipedia is such a great source of information [/quote]


It's not, but it what it says is pretty common knowledge as far as I know and put it pretty clearly

[Callidius]

Careful with wiki, That is edited constantly by normal people to mega corporations changing everything and what is said about the church

[Resurrexi]

Well, I would say semitic can mean several different things.

Historically, it would be correct to refer to Asians as semitic since the majority of the people in Asia are descended from Sem, the son of Noe (those are the spellings in the Vulgate and Douay-Rheims, if anyone was wondering ).

Linguistically speaking, semitic refers to a certain group of languages in the Middle East.

[Hassan]

[quote name='Callidius' post='1874908' date='May 25 2009, 01:28 PM']Careful with wiki, That is edited constantly by normal people to mega corporations changing everything and what is said about the church[/quote]


That's true, in this case, however, I just posted it because it gave a clear explination of what I was refering too. If he wanted another source he could find one pretty quickly.

[Hassan]

[quote name='Resurrexi' post='1874910' date='May 25 2009, 01:29 PM']Well, I would say semitic can mean several different things.

Historically, it would be correct to refer to Asians as semitic since the majority of the people in Asia are descended from Sem, the son of Noe (those are the spellings in the Vulgate and Douay-Rheims, if anyone was wondering ).

Linguistically speaking, semitic refers to a certain group of languages in the Middle East.[/quote]

That is a religious belief and your are naturally free to hold it. I'm not sure how many Anthropoligists would agree with that claim.

[Resurrexi]

If I recall correctly, Aloysius is studying anthropology.

[Hassan]

[quote name='Resurrexi' post='1874922' date='May 25 2009, 02:35 PM']If I recall correctly, Aloysius is studying anthropology.[/quote]


I believe that is correct.

Let's ask him how many anthropological texts list the son of Noah as the origin of the semetic peoples

Edited May 25, 2009 by Hassan

[Resurrexi]

The book of Genesis for one.

Edited May 25, 2009 by Resurrexi