add Posted June 21, 2009 Posted June 21, 2009 [url="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/18/AR2009061803877.html?hpid=moreheadlines"]Visit My Website[/url] The U.S. Senate has unanimously passed a resolution apologizing for slavery, making way for a joint congressional resolution and the latest attempt by the federal government to take responsibility for 2 1/2 centuries of slavery. a apology is wrong, after all, at least 618,000 Americans died in the Civil War, this war ended this sin of slavery, once in for all, not just for the United States but for the entire world. Slavery existed long before the birth of the U.S. and U.S. can take credit for ending the practice. what do you say?
CatherineM Posted June 21, 2009 Posted June 21, 2009 Slavery hasn't ended. 27 million people worldwide are currently in slavery. The US State Department just released their 2009 Trafficking in Persons Report. For more information try [url="http://www.state.gov/g/tip/rls/tiprpt/2009/index.htm"]2009 Report[/url] or [url="http://www.notforsalecampaign.org/"]Not For Sale[/url].
Resurrexi Posted June 21, 2009 Posted June 21, 2009 [quote name='CatherineM' post='1896945' date='Jun 20 2009, 09:11 PM']Slavery hasn't ended. 27 million people worldwide are currently in slavery. The US State Department just released their 2009 Trafficking in Persons Report. For more information try [url="http://www.state.gov/g/tip/rls/tiprpt/2009/index.htm"]2009 Report[/url] or [url="http://www.notforsalecampaign.org/"]Not For Sale[/url].[/quote] Instead of making meaningless statement on paper, we should try to end slavery in those countries.
CatherineM Posted June 21, 2009 Posted June 21, 2009 It's hard to end slavery when most people don't even know it exists.
abercius24 Posted June 21, 2009 Posted June 21, 2009 (edited) I agree with both of you. Let's offer an apology for what part we have played in the worldwide scourge of slavery and allow that to be a catalyst in turning everyone's attention toward addressing the remaining problems that exist. Honestly, I support the U.S. government along these lines. Believe it or not, they are finally following the model set down by Pope Benedict XVI and Pope John Paul II. Much good can come from this. And CatherineM is right, even some Americans disappear every year and find themselves slaves in a foreign nation. It happens more often than you may think. Edited June 21, 2009 by abercius24
add Posted June 21, 2009 Author Posted June 21, 2009 Yes, it is true that in some parts of the world slavery still exist and is sanctioned by law. Women are considered property, like cattle, and human rights are still denied in other ways too, some places. After the civil war in the US, the fact is [u]slavery was outlawed[/u]... Many good men and woman gave their lives to end this horrible sinful practice. they should be commended, if anything by congress. True, it (slavery) is not yet eradicated, but I do not see how the congress of the US saying “SORRY” does anyone a bit of good.
OraProMe Posted June 21, 2009 Posted June 21, 2009 [quote name='apparently' post='1896919' date='Jun 20 2009, 08:30 PM']what do you say?[/quote] [mod]Language and personal attack. --Era Might[/mod]
Resurrexi Posted June 21, 2009 Posted June 21, 2009 (edited) You are very rude. The United States is the greatest nation on earth whose official religion is not Catholicism. That means that only Vatican City, Monaco, Malta, Liechtenstein, Costa Rica, Argentina, and Switzerland are greater nations than the United States. Edited June 21, 2009 by Resurrexi
OraProMe Posted June 21, 2009 Posted June 21, 2009 [quote name='Resurrexi' post='1897355' date='Jun 21 2009, 07:14 AM']You are very rude. The United States is the greatest nation on earth whose official religion is not Catholicism. [/quote] ahahhaha, oh man. I think the rest of the world might have something to say about that.
she_who_is_not Posted June 21, 2009 Posted June 21, 2009 [quote name='CatherineM' post='1897010' date='Jun 20 2009, 10:39 PM']It's hard to end slavery when most people don't even know it exists.[/quote] There are enslaved persons in our own country. It is especially prevalent in Virginia and Florida. From the USCCB: [url="http://www.usccb.org/mrs/trafficking/index.shtml"]http://www.usccb.org/mrs/trafficking/index.shtml[/url]
CatherineM Posted June 21, 2009 Posted June 21, 2009 I does seem that the US is in the apology business these days. Canada and the Pope seem to be expected to apologize for everything under the sun too. Maybe England should apologize for beheading a few too many of my ancestors.
add Posted June 21, 2009 Author Posted June 21, 2009 [quote name='OraProMe' post='1897486' date='Jun 21 2009, 12:27 PM'][mod]Language. --Era Might[/mod][/quote] yes it is vulger
Archaeology cat Posted June 21, 2009 Posted June 21, 2009 [quote name='OraProMe' post='1897440' date='Jun 21 2009, 01:49 PM']ahahhaha, oh man. I think the rest of the world might have something to say about that.[/quote] I was thinking that as well.
dUSt Posted June 21, 2009 Posted June 21, 2009 The U.S. government hasn't apologized for slavery before this? Well it's about time. Let's all pray for the day that the U.S. apologizes for abortion.
dairygirl4u2c Posted June 21, 2009 Posted June 21, 2009 (edited) folks often talk about how we incur the sins of our fathers etc. if they really mean this, beyond the mere 'theory' that is good and bite size for religious purposes, then i could see arguing that if no one has apologized before, that it should be done at some point due to our obligation there. didn't the pope eventually apologize for galileo and some of the other things? i do remember there might have been some controvery about the adequacy of his apology, but i think it was there. so the pope even espouses the above views, i believe. as far as 'reparation' for things like 'affirmative action' etc, well, that's not so obvious. the supreme court has limited those situations where it's allowed though, to more reasonable areas. so it's not that big of a practical issue, and even in theory, it's reducing the harms of reverse discrmination in a healthy way, i would argue. Edited June 21, 2009 by dairygirl4u2c
dUSt Posted June 21, 2009 Posted June 21, 2009 For personal reasons, I hope all black people get paid out of this.
MissScripture Posted June 21, 2009 Posted June 21, 2009 [quote name='Resurrexi' post='1897355' date='Jun 21 2009, 07:14 AM']You are very rude. The United States is the greatest nation on earth whose official religion is not Catholicism. That means that only Vatican City, Monaco, Malta, Liechtenstein, Costa Rica, Argentina, and Switzerland are greater nations than the United States. [/quote] Huh! I didn't know Liechtenstein was Catholic! Nifty. [quote name='CatherineM' post='1897477' date='Jun 21 2009, 10:48 AM']I does seem that the US is in the apology business these days. Canada and the Pope seem to be expected to apologize for everything under the sun too. Maybe England should apologize for beheading a few too many of my ancestors.[/quote] Can I get an apology from Russia for putting my great-grandma and grandma in a concentration camp? And for shooting my great-grandfather in the street? Interestingly enough, Germany paid (as in sent my great-grandmother checks) for my great-grandfather being shot... We're not really sure how that ended up happening, but for quite some time she got checks from the German gov't. [quote name='dUSt' post='1897504' date='Jun 21 2009, 12:02 PM']The U.S. government hasn't apologized for slavery before this? Well it's about time. Let's all pray for the day that the U.S. apologizes for abortion.[/quote] Hopefully that will be soon! [quote name='dUSt' post='1897573' date='Jun 21 2009, 01:35 PM']For personal reasons, I hope all black people get paid out of this.[/quote]
icelandic_iceskater Posted June 21, 2009 Posted June 21, 2009 I was talking to someone on fb the other day who thinks that the government should not only apologize, but also provide education (beyond highschool), health care, housing, and jobs for African Americans. like... overboard much? I do not see why he wants to go back into a situation not unlike the one his race once was in- where others have control over his life.
MissScripture Posted June 21, 2009 Posted June 21, 2009 [quote name='icelandic_iceskater' post='1897585' date='Jun 21 2009, 01:47 PM']I was talking to someone on fb the other day who thinks that the government should not only apologize, but also provide education (beyond highschool), health care, housing, and jobs for African Americans. like... overboard much? I do not see why he wants to go back into a situation not unlike the one his race once was in- where others have control over his life.[/quote] Well, if their healthcare provisions would be anything like Indian Health Services, or any of those things like they provide for the Native Americans, the person you were talking to had better be prepared to get the bottom of the barrel for pretty much everything...
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