QuoteMan Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 (edited) Your thoughts? Some animal-lovers might believe that animals DO go to Heaven; whereas others believe that animals don't have human souls; thus, they can't go to heaven... Edited June 30, 2009 by QuoteMan
dominicansoul Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 i think I'll stick to the Baltimore Catechism on this one. Only those of us who were created in the image and likeness of God, who have immortal souls have a place for us in Heaven or sadly, in Hell... (animals don't go to hell, either...)
Resurrexi Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 [url="http://www.ewtn.com/expert/answers/pets_in_heaven.htm"]This[/url] is a good article on the subject.
QuoteMan Posted June 30, 2009 Author Posted June 30, 2009 [quote name='Resurrexi' post='1905824' date='Jun 29 2009, 10:11 PM'][url="http://www.ewtn.com/expert/answers/pets_in_heaven.htm"]This[/url] is a good article on the subject.[/quote] Good article
Vincent Vega Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 [img]http://bobbiblogger.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/9cf6dc.jpg[/img] DISCLAIMER: This is not the actual Church teaching on the topic, but I couldn't resist.
Resurrexi Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 There is a website where one can make the church signs and ecclesial community signs say whatever one wants.
QuoteMan Posted June 30, 2009 Author Posted June 30, 2009 [quote name='USAirwaysIHS' post='1905831' date='Jun 29 2009, 10:17 PM'][img]http://bobbiblogger.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/9cf6dc.jpg[/img] DISCLAIMER: This is not the actual Church teaching on the topic, but I couldn't resist. [/quote] I've seen that before in an e-mail, apperently It's totally made up, and someone just photo-shopped the words in... It's still funny though
Vincent Vega Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 [quote name='QuoteMan' post='1905842' date='Jun 29 2009, 10:21 PM']I've seen that before in an e-mail, apperently It's totally made up, and someone just photo-shopped the words in... It's still funny though [/quote] Yes, it's all fake, but I still get a chuckle every time I see it.
Resurrexi Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 [quote name='QuoteMan' post='1905842' date='Jun 29 2009, 10:21 PM']I've seen that before in an e-mail, apperently It's totally made up, and someone just photo-shopped the words in... It's still funny though [/quote] I am fairly certain that the person who made that just used [url="http://www.says-it.com/churchsigns/"]this website[/url].
Lilllabettt Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 I'm pretty sure St. Thomas says animals don't go to Heaven. He was wrong about other things though, so ...
VeniteAdoremus Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 [quote name='Lilllabettt' post='1906243' date='Jun 30 2009, 07:03 PM']I'm pretty sure St. Thomas says animals don't go to Heaven. He was wrong about other things though, so ...[/quote] No way. St. Thomas was right about everything. I'm for scholasticism-scholasticism: everything the Scholastics said was true, and what we need to do is make incredibly awkward logical deductions so that our experiences fit into it. In any case, animals go to Heaven. John says that in the New Jerusalem the Lamb is the Light. QED.
kafka Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 [quote name='VeniteAdoremus' post='1906253' date='Jun 30 2009, 12:35 PM']No way. St. Thomas was right about everything. I'm for scholasticism-scholasticism: everything the Scholastics said was true, and what we need to do is make incredibly awkward logical deductions so that our experiences fit into it. In any case, animals go to Heaven. John says that in the New Jerusalem the Lamb is the Light. QED.[/quote] nice! The animals will dwell on the New Earth, not in the New Heaven.
brokensparrow Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 I agree with the article that animals don't have immortal souls and therefore do not go to heaven, however I think it would be unfair to put a limit on God by saying yes or no for sure. After all, God can do what he wants to right?
Gregorius Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 [quote name='brokensparrow' post='1906347' date='Jun 30 2009, 01:29 PM']I agree with the article that animals don't have immortal souls and therefore do not go to heaven, however I think it would be unfair to put a limit on God by saying yes or no for sure. After all, God can do what he wants to right?[/quote] True, but he did not give animals immortal souls.
VeniteAdoremus Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 [quote name='brokensparrow' post='1906347' date='Jun 30 2009, 09:29 PM']I agree with the article that animals don't have immortal souls and therefore do not go to heaven, however I think it would be unfair to put a limit on God by saying yes or no for sure. After all, God can do what he wants to right?[/quote] We do know it looks bad for the dolphins, because there will be no more sea. But I assume they'll be taken away by a spaceship while singing happy songs.
Gregorius Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 [quote name='VeniteAdoremus' post='1906354' date='Jun 30 2009, 01:40 PM']We do know it looks bad for the dolphins, because there will be no more sea. But I assume they'll be taken away by a spaceship while singing happy songs.[/quote]
brokensparrow Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 [quote name='VeniteAdoremus' post='1906354' date='Jun 30 2009, 12:40 PM']We do know it looks bad for the dolphins, because there will be no more sea. But I assume they'll be taken away by a spaceship while singing happy songs.[/quote] Haha, this made me lol.
Resurrexi Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 [quote name='VeniteAdoremus' post='1906253' date='Jun 30 2009, 11:35 AM']No way. St. Thomas was right about everything. I'm for scholasticism-scholasticism: everything the Scholastics said was true, and what we need to do is make incredibly awkward logical deductions so that our experiences fit into it. [/quote] I like scholasticism.
Vasilius Konstantinos Posted July 1, 2009 Posted July 1, 2009 [quote name='VeniteAdoremus' post='1906354' date='Jun 30 2009, 02:40 PM']We do know it looks bad for the dolphins, because there will be no more sea. But I assume they'll be taken away by a spaceship while singing happy songs.[/quote] While whistling the [i]Star-Spangled Banner[/i] nonetheless? If animals had souls then we would have been witnessing to them as well. And yet I have not heard of the great Gospel of Fluffy written to the literal flock in Thessaloniki. Go figure.
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