What Is Your View On Creation?

[Paddington]

[Mapache]

Personally, I take the six days of Creation to be literal. However, I am also open to the possibility of the six days to be six "God days", meaning millions of human years. His concept of time is not the same as ours.

[Paddington]

Welcome to Phatmass, Mapache.

Word to your mom.

[Mapache]

Thanks, Paddington. I'm open to all the help I can get on how to make my profile/posts better. So, creation...your thoughts/your mom's thoughts.

[Paddington]

She went out to eat.

My own thought is kinda non-existent.

I just tried messaging you and it wouldn't let me cuz you're not special enough yet.

[Mapache]

So you don't believe in Creation? So evolution? Big Bang? One thing led to another? Also, do I have to refresh to check and see if a reply has been posted? Or will it just automatically appear? Also, I tried uploading a pic...it wouldn't let me

[Lil Red]

[quote name='Mapache' post='1920855' date='Jul 15 2009, 03:51 PM']Personally, I take the six days of Creation to be literal. However, I am also open to the possibility of the six days to be six "God days", meaning millions of human years. His concept of time is not the same as ours.[/quote]
+J.M.J.+
that's an interesting thought.

welcome to phatmass!

[Paddington]

I believe in God. So, I guess I believe He is responsible for the created stuff.

I don't know about evolution and big bang stuff too much.

Sometimes refresh, sometimes automatically appear. But when you post, everything gets refreshed. Or something.

It seems slow here right now. Usually at night there is more action.


EDIT: Lil Red is pretty cool. She's kinda a big deal around here. Having authority and whatnot.

Edited July 15, 2009 by Paddington

[Paddington]

Kafka and Resurrexi have made interesting posts on this topic before.

[Mapache]

I'll make sure to stay on Lil Red's good side. Would also like to know why she said my thought was "interesting". Was it interestingly insightful or interestingly ignorant?

Padd, not knowing is cool. Again, I don't really think it's really crucial to have right/wrong answers about how God created the world, i.e. six literal days/millions of years/a story told to children (which is what my dad thinks). It's just "interesting" to discuss.

[Paddington]

Yea, I would lean to the whole "doesn't matter" thing as long as it didn't include the crazy options.

When people say they know for sure that they have human fossils and artifacts from more than 6,000 years ago, then ummm....I don't know [edit] how that squares with the Bible [/edit].

I never knew much about this topic and I know even less now.



[quote name='Mapache' post='1920893' date='Jul 15 2009, 07:21 PM']Was it interestingly insightful or interestingly ignorant?[/quote]

Yea, like when people say you are amazing. It feels good at face value...

Edited July 15, 2009 by Paddington

[Lil Red]

[quote name='Mapache' post='1920893' date='Jul 15 2009, 04:21 PM']I'll make sure to stay on Lil Red's good side. Would also like to know why she said my thought was "interesting". Was it interestingly insightful or interestingly ignorant?[/quote]
+J.M.J.+
interesting as in "i've never thought about it that way before"

[Lil Red]

[quote name='Paddington' post='1920899' date='Jul 15 2009, 04:26 PM']Yea, I would lean to the whole "doesn't matter" thing as long as it didn't include the crazy options.[/quote]
+J.M.J.+
yeah, i guess i don't think about it much, if at all. it's just not something that impacts my daily faith life.

[cmotherofpirl]

[quote name='Paddington' post='1920899' date='Jul 15 2009, 07:26 PM']Yea, I would lean to the whole "doesn't matter" thing as long as it didn't include the crazy options.

When people say they know for sure that they have human fossils and artifacts from more than 6,000 years ago, then ummm....I don't know [edit] how that squares with the Bible [/edit].

I never knew much about this topic and I know even less now.





Yea, like when people say you are amazing. It feels good at face value...[/quote]

I have Clovis and Cumberland point arrowheads older than 6000 years. The number 6000 was arrived at by a protestant minister named Mr Darby in Scotland in the 1800s, so its an invented tradition of men.

[picchick]

[quote name='Mapache' post='1920855' date='Jul 15 2009, 05:51 PM']Personally, I take the six days of Creation to be literal. However, I am also open to the possibility of the six days to be six "God days", meaning millions of human years. His concept of time is not the same as ours.[/quote]
Yep, this is how I sorta see it to.

We did not come from monkeys. We were made from the image of God. God created the earth. He created it from nothing. But, how and how long He decided to take? I don't know. I'll talk to God over coffee on that one.

[Mapache]

[quote name='Paddington' post='1920899' date='Jul 15 2009, 06:26 PM']Yea, like when people say you are amazing. It feels good at face value...[/quote]


So it's better to just say 'thank you' at leave it alone, eh? Works for me. Btw, also learned how to quote. Take that, Space Coyote.

[Vincent Vega]

I've given quite a lot of thought to it, and I've come to the conclusion that it doesn't really matter to me, in the sense that it doesn't impact my faith one way or the other.
I would lean toward a Theistic Evolutionary type view.
I believe that God created the heavens and the earth. Whether this was in six 24-hour periods or six eons is rather inconsequential. We have the fossil record and more or less concrete proof of evolution (microevolution and natural selection certainly), so I'd think that it went down somewhat like God "sparked" the Big Bang, and Adam and Eve were the first entirely human beings who were ensouled.
But as I said at the beginning, my view is pretty much, "it doesn't matter that much to me."

[Selah]

I'm a Theistic evolutionist. I believe that the story in Genesis is just that-a story. A story written by the ancients to explain how they believe the earth was created and how sin entered into the world. It's a story, but a facinating one nonetheless. I always say that the Bible is not a science book, but a book written to describe God's way of reaching out to us through Jesus.

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='Paddington' post='1920899' date='Jul 15 2009, 05:26 PM']When people say they know for sure that they have human fossils and artifacts from more than 6,000 years ago, then ummm....I don't know [edit] how that squares with the Bible [/edit].[/quote]
My dad, in the line of work he's in, knows a heck of a lot about geological timelines, ages of rock, etc. In my opinion, his, and the opinion of science, there is zero question that the earth is far far far [i]far [b]far[/b][/i] older than 6000 years old. I have no problem reconciling that to the beliefs of the Church. None whatsoever.
"A contradiction cannot exist in reality. Not in part, nor in whole."
There needn't be any contradiction present in Creationism and science.

[Vincent Vega]

[quote name='Selah' post='1920920' date='Jul 15 2009, 06:37 PM']I believe that the story in Genesis is just that-a story.[/quote]
See, I wouldn't go that far.
Maybe an allegory, but not a story like a fairy tale.
Even most non-Thesists/Christians would agree that that is more or less the order in which things happened, so I'm not sure I'd discount it quite that much.