MIKolbe Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 [quote name='Varg' post='1936569' date='Jul 31 2009, 09:32 AM']What a wonderfully thought out and well written addition to our debate :-P[/quote] maybe he was trying to be charitable?
Winchester Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 He was probably trying to keep from being banned.
Varg Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 Ok then, if you can just change your sexuality at will then you all go out and be gay. Go on, if it's so easy.
Winchester Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 [quote name='Varg' post='1936590' date='Jul 31 2009, 11:53 AM']Ok then, if you can just change your sexuality at will then you all go out and be gay. Go on, if it's so easy.[/quote] Still not an argument.
CatherineM Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 I think we are born on a bell curve of sexuality. I think our culture has tilted the curve in a way that is no longer healthy.
Winchester Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 [quote name='CatherineM' post='1936600' date='Jul 31 2009, 12:01 PM']I think we are born on a bell curve of sexuality. I think our culture has tilted the curve in a way that is no longer healthy.[/quote] By taking a moderate view, C. has removed all but the most bigoted of opposition. Her argument employs common knowledge of humanity, which is that we rarely hold to only one position, that we are complex and contradictory beings. Let this be a lesson to you all.
Winchester Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 [quote name='Varg' post='1936605' date='Jul 31 2009, 12:08 PM']Whatev, you're still wrong.[/quote] Still not an argument. Perhaps debate is not your thing. There's threads about entertainment and lameness. You might do better on those.
Varg Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 So hang on...What are we even debating about? I said that homosexuality occurs naturally and everyone else is like "No it's a choice!" which is wrong. There's no point even debating it
Winchester Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 [quote name='Varg' post='1936608' date='Jul 31 2009, 12:11 PM']So hang on...What are we even debating about? I said that homosexuality occurs naturally and everyone else is like "No it's a choice!" which is wrong. There's no point even debating it[/quote] Actually, you used that as an argument and were asked to support it. You became petulant and insulting. Part of your problem is a misunderstanding of the term "natural" in this instance.
Varg Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 I did back it up, but it should be so blindingly obvious that I shouldn't need to. Thinky thinky. And when was I insulting?
Winchester Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 [quote name='Varg' post='1936626' date='Jul 31 2009, 12:32 PM']I did back it up, but it should be so blindingly obvious that I shouldn't need to. Thinky thinky. And when was I insulting?[/quote] No, you did not back it up. And the irony within your post is blinding.
Varg Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 [quote name='Winchester' post='1936621' date='Jul 31 2009, 11:28 AM']Actually, you used that as an argument and were asked to support it. You became petulant and insulting. Part of your problem is a misunderstanding of the term "natural" in this instance.[/quote]Then what's your definition of natural?
Winchester Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 It's not my personal one, but in this usage, natural sexuality is that which conforms to natural law.
Winchester Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 And you need to read about natural law. It's far too large a subject to explain to you in this forum. There are people who can summarize it, but I'm not good at that one and if I were, with your position, there would be little point--any summary will skip many arguments and it will descend into a defense of natural law.
Hassan Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 [quote name='Varg' post='1936590' date='Jul 31 2009, 10:53 AM']Ok then, if you can just change your sexuality at will then you all go out and be gay. Go on, if it's so easy.[/quote] I don't want to and you can't make me.
Varg Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 ^You couldn't anyway, it's impossible [quote name='Winchester' post='1936670' date='Jul 31 2009, 12:12 PM']And you need to read about natural law. It's far too large a subject to explain to you in this forum. There are people who can summarize it, but I'm not good at that one and if I were, with your position, there would be little point--any summary will skip many arguments and it will descend into a defense of natural law.[/quote]we're not debating about wheather it's natural, we're debating whether it's a choice
Winchester Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 [quote name='Varg' post='1936708' date='Jul 31 2009, 02:14 PM']^You couldn't anyway, it's impossible we're not debating about wheather it's natural, we're debating whether it's a choice[/quote] You claimed it was natural. Your words. Go look them up. Once you've refined your argument, I can demolish it.
KnightofChrist Posted July 31, 2009 Posted July 31, 2009 [quote name='Varg' post='1936708' date='Jul 31 2009, 01:14 PM']^You couldn't anyway, it's impossible we're not debating about wheather it's natural, we're debating whether it's a choice[/quote] Since when is Na ah!, Is so, or yeah sure like retorts a debate?¿
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