Lol Ann Coulter Gets Caught In A Lie

[iheartjp2]

[quote name='Hassan' post='1932569' date='Jul 26 2009, 04:44 PM']What in the world are you talking about.



Yeah. He's also at best a second rate comedian and a third rate author. I don't know why you keep trying to make this about Al Franken. I don't care for him either.[/quote]

Well, it's about him now because instead of Ann having gotten caught in a lie, it's Al who's been caught in a lie by anyone who watched the video and listened to everything objectively. Al was lying through his teeth when he stated that Ann was lying. You, however, stated more than once that Ann actually was lying when, in fact, she wasn't. She took the name that a NYT op-ed writer gave to terrorists and summed up his article to make her point in an analysis on national security. The point she was making was that this guy was diverting attention away from the real issue: that it wasn't radicals "of any stripe" that were attacking us. All of the 911 hijackers were Muslim. Every terrorist threat against our national security has been perpetrated by Muslims, not people "of any stripe". She was using that to reveal the dishonesty of the op-ed writer. She didn't misquote him. She didn't state ANY mistruth. Al, on the other hand, did. That's why I'm making it about Al. Ann's not the liar, Al is.

Edited July 26, 2009 by iheartjp2

[Hassan]

[quote name='iheartjp2' post='1932578' date='Jul 26 2009, 04:53 PM']She took the name that a NYT op-ed writer gave to terrorists and summed up his article to make her point in an analysis on national security. She didn't misquote him. She didn't state ANY mistruth. Al, on the other hand, did. That's why I'm making it about Al. Ann's not the liar, Al is.[/quote]



I'm just going to ignore your inane tangent about Al Franken and stay focused on Ann.

I've posted the whole article. She claimed that Friedman blamed 20 years of Muslim terrorism on "religious fundamentalists of any stripe". That is neither an honest representation of his quote nor in any way a fair summation of his overall article.

Edited July 26, 2009 by Hassan

[iheartjp2]

[quote name='Hassan' post='1932581' date='Jul 26 2009, 04:57 PM']I'm just going to ignore your inane tangent about Al Franken and stay focused on Ann.

I've posted the whole article. She claimed that Friedman blamed 20 years of Muslim terrorism on "religious fundamentalists of any stripe". That is neither an honest representation of his quote nor in any way a fair summation of his overall article.[/quote]

I edited my post while you were posting yours. Here's the part that I added:

"The point she was making was that this guy was diverting attention away from the real issue: that it wasn't radicals "of any stripe" that were attacking us. All of the 911 hijackers were Muslim. Every terrorist threat against our national security has been perpetrated by Muslims, not people "of any stripe". She was using that to reveal the dishonesty of the op-ed writer."

I believe that it was "an honest representation of his quote", an honest representation of the lie and the diversion that it was.

[iheartjp2]

Also, if you actually watch the last part of the video in which Ann responds, she makes the point that I just made quite clear. The meaning of the name the op-ed writer gave the terrorists shows his (and generally liberals') dishonesty about what we were/are up against. We can pin an almost EXACT description of the people who attacked us and he's talking about "radical fundamentalists of any stripe", while "the Amish fundamentalists have been very silent" and as she stated, so have the Mormons. We're not looking for just anybody, we're looking for people who have a specific description (or at least we should). The use of the quote was to show how WRONG the writer was, not to misquote him or to be dishonest; it wasn't dishonest.

[Hassan]

[quote name='iheartjp2' post='1932584' date='Jul 26 2009, 04:03 PM']I edited my post while you were posting yours. Here's the part that I added:

"The point she was making was that this guy was diverting attention away from the real issue: that it wasn't radicals "of any stripe" that were attacking us. All of the 911 hijackers were Muslim. Every terrorist threat against our national security has been perpetrated by Muslims, not people "of any stripe". She was using that to reveal the dishonesty of the op-ed writer."[/quote]


I would love for you to explain to me how you managed to get that "interpretation" out of Mr. Friedman's article.

That is not the focus of the article nor is it what she claimed. She claimed that Mr. Friedman blamed 20 years of Muslim terrorism on....

Even if your interpretation were somehow correct, and it most certainly is not, her representation is still not valid.

And furthermore it would not even be factually correct to claim that every terrorist threat against our country of the last 20 years has been perpetrated by Muslims. Unless one did not consider McVeigh or any of his neo-nazi friends terrorist threats. Or one feels that North Korea was unfairly labeled a state sponsor of terrorism. Or the host of other terrorist threats we have faced over the last 20 years along with Muslim terrorism.

[Selah]

I don't like her either. She's rude and obnoxious, and while I do agree with her at times, I think she could get her point across without being crass.

[Guest Servant of Divine]

Why is Miss Coutler wearing a mini-skirt?

[Lilllabettt]

[quote name='Servant of Divine' post='1932726' date='Jul 26 2009, 08:52 PM']Why is Miss Coutler wearing a mini-skirt?[/quote]

For the same reason she uses exaggerations and vitriol in her writing.

Sex, like rage, sells.

[iheartjp2]

[quote name='Hassan' post='1932595' date='Jul 26 2009, 05:12 PM']I would love for you to explain to me how you managed to get that "interpretation" out of Mr. Friedman's article.

That is not the focus of the article nor is it what she claimed. She claimed that Mr. Friedman blamed 20 years of Muslim terrorism on....

Even if your interpretation were somehow correct, and it most certainly is not, her representation is still not valid.

And furthermore it would not even be factually correct to claim that every terrorist threat against our country of the last 20 years has beeen perpetrated by Muslims. Unless one did not consider McVeigh or any of his neo-nazi friends terrorist threats. Or one feels that North Korea was unfairly labeled a state sponsor of terrorism. Or the host of other terrorist threats we have faced over the last 20 years along with Muslim terrorism.[/quote]

Well, in affect, that is what Ms. Coulter contended that Friedman was doing. We have 20 years of Islamic Extremist Terrorism directed at us and not coming from anyone else. The guy calls those with radical views who have perpetrated affrontation to our national security "radical fundamentalists of any stripe" when, in fact, they've only been of one stripe. That's what she was getting at: the deception on the left that says Islamic extremists aren't the only ones to blame for all these affrontations.

Okay...domestic terrorists? Threats? When I say "affrontations", what I mean are [b]concrete attacks[/b], not just threats to attack. As with home-grown terrorists, they 1) didn't threaten our national security on the same scale as the Islamofascists because 2) They weren't in the country illegally (as several of the attackers were because their travel visas weren't any good) and they were citizens with records that could help us track them. Foreigners who have never been here and who we don't even KNOW are here can't be tracked. North Korea, other "threats" aren't what I'm talking about and they're not what Ann was talking about. We're talking about threats that were actually [i]carried out[/i] over the course of 20 years.