Debauchery In Heaven

[dairygirl4u2c]

so what if heaven were filled with everyone being servants, and nothing considered sinful were allowed.

but hell were filled with no servants, and indulgences to your hearts content allowed?

basically, kinda like what if hell is the place ya got the ten virgins etc, as muslims like to think their heaven is like.

would you resent having acted so good to get to heaven? my guess is you wouldn't get to heaven if you had that motto, even if you led a great exterior life. but you see the point-- if ya were allowed, etc, it'd be a tragedy of great proportions. i'd guess you'd have to be let into hell, if that's what ya wanted.

i remember all the folks here talking about how they wanted to sin etc, if there was no God. as if God's commands aren't fulfilling enough. are we waiting to be allowed to sin in heaven, as it seems muslims think?
are they not sins that we're thinking of, necessarily? eating a lot, normally 'too much' dubbed, a bad thing?
what would be your thoughts, if presented with that scenario in the afterlife?
thoughts?

Edited July 30, 2009 by dairygirl4u2c

[dairygirl4u2c]

i guess a wise type answer would be, that God would grant us the grace to not desire sin etc. anyone could theoretically assent to that-- if it's the 'right' thing to do, and you're not drawn to it anymore--- why not? it's in a way, an easy answer. what if we didn't have that grace, per se? you just had to endure it, so to speak. the sacrifice that love requires etc.

plus, don't ya think you're resenting it now? 'i'm not longer going to desire eating too much?? but that's my favorite sin" etc. doesm't that say something about your situation now?
or that so many want to sin, and would if God didn't exist-- doesn't that say something? isn't it just techincalities if their hearts are elsewhere? i guess they want to sin, but know better. that they would if they could though, is a tough to row to ho. but ultimately i guess, kinda like the distinction, between perfect and imperfect contrition- those who think this, who are God's children, know better even if they hearts are torn and rebeleous.

Edited July 30, 2009 by dairygirl4u2c

[goldenchild17]

[quote]basically, kinda like what if hell is the place ya got the ten virgins etc, as muslims like to think their heaven is like.[/quote]

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTW9aHf--co"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTW9aHf--co[/url]

[Selah]

[quote name='goldenchild17' post='1935730' date='Jul 30 2009, 04:33 PM'][url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTW9aHf--co"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTW9aHf--co[/url][/quote]

OSAMA!!!!!!!

[Hassan]

[quote name='goldenchild17' post='1935730' date='Jul 30 2009, 03:33 PM'][url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTW9aHf--co"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTW9aHf--co[/url][/quote]

[CatherineM]

I can't imagine wanting to sin once we are in Jesus' presence.

[add]

sympathy for the devil

[Nihil Obstat]

Sorry Dairygirl, but this thread is crazy, even by your standards.

[T-Bone _]

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E11K_gK3LKw"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E11K_gK3LKw[/url]

[Varg]

In Valhalla there is much mead and much fighting!

Edited July 31, 2009 by Varg

[Winchester]

Sin is sin because God says so (in a certain manner of putting it).

Twain argued there would be no humor in Heaven.

[CatherineM]

I'm thinking that Sto-vo-kor might be a cool place to hang out in. There'd be singing and drinking.

[Varg]

[quote name='Winchester' post='1936575' date='Jul 31 2009, 10:38 AM']Sin is sin because God says so (in a certain manner of putting it).

Twain argued there would be no humor in Heaven.[/quote]Here's something I've benn wondering: if god made everything, why did he bother making things that are sinful and then ban people from doing them?

[Winchester]

[quote name='Varg' post='1936619' date='Jul 31 2009, 12:27 PM']Here's something I've benn wondering: if god made everything, why did he bother making things that are sinful and then ban people from doing them?[/quote]
Free will permits one to pursue the Good.

[Varg]

But if god wants us to have COMPLETE free will then why did he give us emotions such as guilt or a consience?

[dairygirl4u2c]

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWNOEwSrouE&NR=1"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWNOEwSrouE&NR=1[/url]

i dont get it
i dont know why im posting it

Edited July 31, 2009 by dairygirl4u2c

[Winchester]

[quote name='Varg' post='1936631' date='Jul 31 2009, 12:43 PM']But if god wants us to have COMPLETE free will then why did he give us emotions such as guilt or a consience?[/quote]
At one time, there was perfect free will, prior to the Fall.

[dairygirl4u2c]

twain argued there would be no humor in heaven.
there's that mindset that heaven is just harps and boring stuff... what if hell was what you "really" wanted, albeit of the sinful variety?

[Era Might]

If hell were a place to do whatever you wanted it wouldn't be very pleasant. Everyone would be tearing each others' faces off to get what they want. Kinda like we do now, except now we're restrained by our desire to be respectable.

Here's a more truthful depiction of hell:
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcStSJSciew[/youtube]

Edited March 25, 2011 by Era Might

[Lil Red]

[quote name='dairygirl4u2c' timestamp='1301094118' post='2223331']
twain argued there would be no humor in heaven.
[/quote]
God has a sense of humor. every time i look in the mirror, i'm reminded of that.