HisChildForever Posted September 21, 2009 Posted September 21, 2009 [quote name='Christopher Brandon' date='21 September 2009 - 12:27 AM' timestamp='1253507258' post='1970208'] For a Roman Catholic you seem eager to dismiss the mericle that had me denounce false gods and seek out the one true God. go back to [i]your[/i] master, I want nothing of his forked tounge. [/quote] You align yourself with [i]paganism[/i]. Enough said right there. And let me get this straight. Because I am offering you RATIONAL explanations for this [i]supposed[/i] phenomena you experienced, I am a Devil worshiper? Silly me, I should have suggested that you drape your room with garlic bulbs while chanting in ancient Sumerian. Medical explanations, what was I thinking???
HisChildForever Posted September 21, 2009 Posted September 21, 2009 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' date='21 September 2009 - 12:36 AM' timestamp='1253507782' post='1970224'] I've had that a few times in the last year. Scares the hell out of me, let me tell you. [/quote] What scared you, the paralysis or the evil purple mist swirling above your headboard?
BG45 Posted September 21, 2009 Posted September 21, 2009 [quote name='Nihil Obstat' date='21 September 2009 - 12:36 AM' timestamp='1253507782' post='1970224'] I've had that a few times in the last year. Scares the hell out of me, let me tell you. [/quote] Ditto. As to miracles, the Roman Catholic Church goes through so many rigorous tests of miraculous events to prove their validity at times.
Christopher Brandon Posted September 21, 2009 Posted September 21, 2009 [quote name='HisChildForever' date='21 September 2009 - 12:37 AM' timestamp='1253507876' post='1970227'] You align yourself with [i]paganism[/i]. Enough said right there. And let me get this straight. Because I am offering you RATIONAL explanations for this [i]supposed[/i] phenomena you experienced, I am a Devil worshiper? Silly me, I should have suggested that you drape your room with garlic bulbs while chanting in ancient Sumerian. Medical explanations, what was I thinking??? [/quote] first, I only said go back to your Master, I love how you assosiated "your Master" with the Devil. You attacked with science something I hold dear in my heart as being a sign from God to call me to Him. You tried to put DOUBT in that, so worshiper or not your doing his work.
HisChildForever Posted September 21, 2009 Posted September 21, 2009 [quote name='Christopher Brandon' date='21 September 2009 - 12:43 AM' timestamp='1253508214' post='1970236'] first, I only said go back to your Master, I love how you assosiated "your Master" with the Devil. [/quote] Um, everyone associates "forked tongue" with the Devil, bro. [quote] You attacked with science something I hold dear in my heart as being a sign from God to call me to Him. You tried to put DOUBT in that, so worshiper or not your doing his work. [/quote] There is no such thing as "astral vampires," okay. Who on earth told you that, Silver Ravenwolf? Still not sure what God you are referring to. Pagans do NOT worship Jesus Christ. You cannot be a pagan and a Christian. Ridiculous.
Aloysius Posted September 21, 2009 Posted September 21, 2009 silly point to clarify, but I feel the need to: you cannot be a Pagan and a monotheist, either. Monotheism means you believe there to be only one God, that there do not now exist nor have there ever existed any other Gods but that one. perhaps you mean you're a monotheist in that you worship only one God, but if you ally yourself with paganism, you admit the existence of other gods that other pagans worship. if you think that the other people's gods are not real, well, you're not exactly a pagan are you? what exactly would keep you a pagan if you could honestly say "the gods that other pagans worship are not real, only my god is real"?
Christopher Brandon Posted September 21, 2009 Posted September 21, 2009 [quote name='HisChildForever' date='21 September 2009 - 12:48 AM' timestamp='1253508485' post='1970243'] Um, everyone associates "forked tongue" with the Devil, bro. There is no such thing as "astral vampires," okay. Who on earth told you that, Silver Ravenwolf? Still not sure what God you are referring to. Pagans do NOT worship Jesus Christ. You cannot be a pagan and a Christian. Ridiculous. [/quote] as per the "forked tonge" I'll give you that. and now your telling me I can't worship Jesus? because I do not take comunion with a Church means I can not be apart of that church. that does not mean I can't Love God, how dare you. Again you do the devils work by discouraging me from God. I love God, and as a creation of God I love you, and I will pray for you.
Christopher Brandon Posted September 21, 2009 Posted September 21, 2009 [quote name='Aloysius' date='21 September 2009 - 12:53 AM' timestamp='1253508816' post='1970251'] silly point to clarify, but I feel the need to: you cannot be a Pagan and a monotheist, either. Monotheism means you believe there to be only one God, that there do not now exist nor have there ever existed any other Gods but that one. perhaps you mean you're a monotheist in that you worship only one God, but if you ally yourself with paganism, you admit the existence of other gods that other pagans worship. if you think that the other people's gods are not real, well, you're not exactly a pagan are you? what exactly would keep you a pagan if you could honestly say "the gods that other pagans worship are not real, only my god is real"? [/quote] I do not think pagans would worship something they did not meet. I just do not think they know who they met, example, fallen angels? many shapeshifters in that group. I do not expect you to understand where I stand. and maybe one day soon I'll accept the Bible and the Church more as I learn more about it, and even come to take comunion with a church. But i'll be dead before I let someone convince me I can't love and worship God.
HisChildForever Posted September 21, 2009 Posted September 21, 2009 [quote name='Christopher Brandon' date='21 September 2009 - 12:54 AM' timestamp='1253508877' post='1970252'] and now your telling me I can't worship Jesus? because I do not take comunion with a Church means I can not be apart of that church. that does not mean I can't Love God, how dare you. Again you do the devils work by discouraging me from God. [/quote] If you worship Jesus Christ then you believe that He is God. And if you believe that He is God then you are also worshiping God the Father and the Holy Spirit. So then you MUST be aware of the first commandment. And you MUST be aware of all the times Christ said that the only way to the Father is through Him. Therefore you MUST be aware that the Scriptures condemn paganism. You are a walking contradiction, and I really encourage you to get that sorted out as soon as possible.
Aloysius Posted September 21, 2009 Posted September 21, 2009 "We do not seek a Christ whom we have invented, for it is only in the real communion of the Catholic Church that we encounter the real Christ" -Pope Benedict XVI (then Cardinal Ratzinger) It is possible to INVENT a Christ with one's mind. It is also possible to be deceived by a FALSE Christ, as the devil appears as an angel of light in order to confuse. What one must always be on guard in dealing with spiritual realities is to ensure that one is never finding the source of one's spiritual progress completely from within ones own self... because it is within our own mind that we can most easily deceive ourselves. To encounter Christ truly, we must have something definitively outside of our control, outside of our own power of manipulation and imagination, against which we test any and all experiences we have. the mind is quite a tricky thing. so is the devil. one's own imagination and the devil (who may influence one's imagination) are the biggest enemies to true spiritual progress. they'll create a false Christ for you who will affirm everything that you personally wish to be true while rejecting anything you personally wish to be false... effectively making this "Christ" into your cheerleader; sure, it might sometimes challenge you to do better because you personally think that it should be done better, but for the most part it becomes an extension of your own personality, a self-worship personified in the imaginary friend you have created.
HisChildForever Posted September 21, 2009 Posted September 21, 2009 [quote name='Christopher Brandon' date='21 September 2009 - 12:59 AM' timestamp='1253509147' post='1970258'] I do not think pagans would worship something they did not meet. I just do not think they know who they met, example, fallen angels? many shapeshifters in that group. I do not expect you to understand where I stand. and maybe one day soon I'll accept the Bible and the Church more as I learn more about it, and even come to take comunion with a church. But i'll be dead before I let someone convince me I can't love and worship God. [/quote] You claim to believe in the Christian God but you do NOT "accept" the Bible. This is just getting better and better.
Christopher Brandon Posted September 21, 2009 Posted September 21, 2009 [quote name='HisChildForever' date='21 September 2009 - 12:59 AM' timestamp='1253509189' post='1970259'] If you worship Jesus Christ then you believe that He is God. And if you believe that He is God then you are also worshiping God the Father and the Holy Spirit. So then you MUST be aware of the first commandment. And you MUST be aware of all the times Christ said that the only way to the Father is through Him. Therefore you MUST be aware that the Scriptures condemn paganism. You are a walking contradiction, and I really encourage you to get that sorted out as soon as possible. [/quote] first commandment if I remember right is not to worship faslse idols/Gods, and I do not. I only worship the Holy Trinity. and I encourage you to be more welcomeing to someone outside your faith. if your Church left you to represent it, your pues would soon be empty.
HisChildForever Posted September 21, 2009 Posted September 21, 2009 [quote name='Christopher Brandon' date='21 September 2009 - 01:06 AM' timestamp='1253509569' post='1970267'] first commandment if I remember right is not to worship faslse idols/Gods, and I do not. I only worship the Holy Trinity. and I encourage you to be more welcomeing to someone outside your faith. if your Church left you to represent it, your pues would soon be empty. [/quote] Oh, I thought you worshiped Jesus Christ. That means you have the same faith as me.
Christopher Brandon Posted September 21, 2009 Posted September 21, 2009 [quote name='HisChildForever' date='21 September 2009 - 01:03 AM' timestamp='1253509394' post='1970264'] You claim to believe in the Christian God but you do NOT "accept" the Bible. This is just getting better and better. [/quote] EXCUSE ME FOR NOT BEING RAISED CHRISTIAN, EXCUSE ME FOR BEING IGNORANT OF THE BIBLES TEACHINGS, EXCUSE ME FOR NOT BEING BLESSED WITH THE LUXURY OF A CHRISTIAN CHILDHOOD AND EXCUSE ME FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO STAND UP ON YOUR PEDASTLE! No Christian hold their nose so high in the air to someone seeking God.
Nihil Obstat Posted September 21, 2009 Posted September 21, 2009 [quote name='HisChildForever' date='20 September 2009 - 11:39 PM' timestamp='1253507978' post='1970230'] What scared you, the paralysis or the evil purple mist swirling above your headboard? [/quote] Funny story. I've had it both falling asleep and waking up. Last time it was while I was waking up, so part of a dream sort of manifested itself during the sleep paralysis. Something about electrocution... It's quite hard to remember now, but I was either being 'attacked' or was in danger of being attacked, but St. Therese was saving me. It was quite neat.
HisChildForever Posted September 21, 2009 Posted September 21, 2009 [quote name='Christopher Brandon' date='21 September 2009 - 01:09 AM' timestamp='1253509753' post='1970275'] EXCUSE ME FOR NOT BEING RAISED CHRISTIAN, EXCUSE ME FOR BEING IGNORANT OF THE BIBLES TEACHINGS, EXCUSE ME FOR NOT BEING BLESSED WITH THE LUXURY OF A CHRISTIAN CHILDHOOD AND EXCUSE ME FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO STAND UP ON YOUR PEDASTLE! No Christian hold their nose so high in the air to someone seeking God. [/quote] No more caffeine for you, mister.
Aloysius Posted September 21, 2009 Posted September 21, 2009 CB, my advice is genuine, I invite you to think it over. You may indeed be coming into contact with the True God, what I said in my last post is something we all must remind ourselves about from time to time: we need outside sources against which to test that which we experience and know if it is true. The Church, which is the Body of Christ, is that for us; also, the Bible, which is the Word of God, is that for us. Without these things we are slaves of our own faulty senses, our own biased imaginations; a mind which will make seem true to us that which we want to be true. when something outside of us says "no, you must accept this as true", it keeps us in check against a self-worshiping aggrandizement of things which are nothing more than our own personal viewpoints. if you would worship Jesus Christ, listen to what He says... He says of His Apostles (of whom the Bishops of the Catholic Church are the successors): "He who hears you hears me", and He says to His Apostles "Whatever you bind on earth is bound in heaven"... it is the voices of the bishops which are the voice of Christ in the world against which we must test our personal experiences of Christ.
Christopher Brandon Posted September 21, 2009 Posted September 21, 2009 [quote name='HisChildForever' date='21 September 2009 - 01:12 AM' timestamp='1253509979' post='1970284'] No more caffeine for you, mister. [/quote] it's people like you that made me give up on churches. you want me gone so bad? fine. I will go. this will be my last post. but I will continue Worshiping God, Jesus and the Holy spirit. so you have failed servant of satan, you have a long way to go before you shake my loyalty.
Nihil Obstat Posted September 21, 2009 Posted September 21, 2009 [quote name='Christopher Brandon' date='21 September 2009 - 12:16 AM' timestamp='1253510177' post='1970288'] it's people like you that made me give up on churches. you want me gone so bad? fine. I will go. this will be my last post. but I will continue Worshiping God, Jesus and the Holy spirit. so you have failed servant of satan, you have a long way to go before you shake my loyalty. [/quote] Please don't be hasty.
HisChildForever Posted September 21, 2009 Posted September 21, 2009 [quote name='Christopher Brandon' date='21 September 2009 - 01:16 AM' timestamp='1253510177' post='1970288'] it's people like you that made me give up on churches. you want me gone so bad? fine. I will go. this will be my last post. but I will continue Worshiping God, Jesus and the Holy spirit. so you have failed servant of satan, you have a long way to go before you shake my loyalty. [/quote] Oh goodness. My first night on here after X amount of months and I have managed to run someone off the boards.
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