Worldly Television, Films, Series And Video Games Is Sinful

[Hietanen]

[quote name='scardella' date='02 October 2009 - 12:32 AM' timestamp='1254432758' post='1975823']
Hiet... methinks you are underestimating God's bountiful mercy.

If I have to read John of the Cross, then you have to read the Diary of St. Faustina.
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About God's mercy. Christ explains about his mercy very well below, and who are deserving of it.



[b]Excerpt from the Revelations of St. Bridget.[/b]

Christ speaks: Why then should people with little faith, vain hope, and no lovedeserve to enter into my glory? If they had faith in eternal joy and inthe terrible punishment, they would desire nothing but me. If theyreally believed that I see and know all things and have power overeverything and that I require a judgment for everyone, the world wouldseem repugnant to them, and they would be afraid of sinning in mypresence due to fear of me rather than of human opinion. If they had afirm hope, then all their thought and understanding would be directedtoward me. If they had divine love, their minds would at least thinkabout what I did for them, the efforts I made in preaching, how muchpain I had in my passion, how much love I had at my death - so muchlove that I preferred to die rather than lose them.

But their faith is weak and wavering, threatening a speedy fall,because they are ready to believe when the impulses of temptation areabsent, but they lose confidence when they meet with adversity.Their hope is vain, because they hope that their sin will be forgivenwithout a trial and without a proper sentence. They are confident theywill get the kingdom of heaven for free. They want to receive my mercyuntempered by justice. Their love toward me is cold, for they are neveron fire in seeking me out, unless forced to it by tribulation. How canI grow warm toward people who have neither an upright faith nor a firmhope nor a fervent love for me? Consequently, when they cry out to meand say 'God, have mercy on me!' they will not deserve to be heard orto enter into my glory. Since they do not want to accompany their Lordin suffering, they will not accompany him in glory. No soldier canplease his lord and be welcomed back into favor after a lapse, unlesshe first humbles himself in order to make up for his disdain.

[url="http://www.prophecyfilm.com/revelations/book1/b1_chapter39.htm"]http://www.prophecyfilm.com/revelations/book1/b1_chapter39.htm[/url]





[b]Excerpt from the Cure of Ars by Saint John Vianney.[/b]


WE ARE EXTRAORDINARILY BLIND

We must certainly be extraordinarily blind because when all is said and done,
there is not a single person who could say that he is ready to appear before
Jesus Christ.

Yet in spite of the fact that we are quite aware of this, there is still not one
among us who will take a single step nearer to God.

Dear Lord, how blind the sinner is! How pitiable is his lot! My dear children, let
us not live like geniuses any longer, for at the moment when we least expect it,
Jesus Christ will knock at our door. How happy then will be the person who
has not been waiting until that very moment to prepare himself for Him.
That is what I wish you to be.

ROUTINE FOLLOWERS

Ah, dear lord, what blindness! oh, ugly sin of hypocrisy which leads souls to
hell with actions which, if they had been performed from genuine motives,
would have brought them to Heaven! Unfortunately, such a large body of
Christians do not know themselves and do not even try to know themselves.
They follow routines and habits, and they do not want to see reason. They are
blind, and they move along in their blindness. If a priest wants to tell them
about the state they are in, they do not listen, and if they go through the
pretence of listening, they will do nothing at all about what they are told.
This state, my dear people, is the most unhappy state that anyone can
possibly imagine, and it is perhaps the most dangerous one as well.


THE WORLD IS EVERYTHING AND GOD IS NOTHING!

If people would do for god what they do for the world, my dear people, what a
great number of Christians would go to Heaven! But if you, dear children, had
to pass three or four hours praying in a church, as you pass them at a dance
or in a cabaret, how heavily the time would press upon you! If you had to go
to a great many different places in order to hear a sermon, as you go for your
pastimes or to satisfy your avarice and greed, what pretexts there would be,
and how many detours would be taken to avoid going at all. But nothing is too
much trouble when done for the world. What is more, people are not afraid of
losing either God or their souls or Heaven. With what good reason did Jesus
Christ, my dear people, say that the children of this world are more zealous in
serving their master, the world, than the children of light are in serving theirs,
who is God. To our shame, we must admit that people fear neither expense,
nor even going into debt, when it is a matter of satisfying their pleasures, but
if some poor person asks them for help, they have nothing at all. This is true
of so many: they have everything for the world and nothing at all for God
because to them, the world is everything and God is nothing.


FOLLOW ONE MASTER ONLY

What a sad life does he lead who wants both to please the world and to serve
God! It is a great mistake to make, my friends. Apart from the fact that you
are going to be unhappy all the time, you can never attain the stage at which
you will be able to please the world and please God. It is as impossible a feat
as trying to put an end to eternity. Take the advice that I am going to give
you now and you will be less unhappy: give yourselves wholly to God or else
wholly to the world. Do not look for and do not serve more than one master,
and once you have chosen the one you are going to follow, do not leave him.
You surely remember what Jesus Christ said to you in the Gospel: you cannot
serve God and Mammon; that is to say, you cannot follow the world and the
pleasures of the world and Jesus Christ with His Cross. Of course you would
be quite willing to follow God just so far and the world just so far! Let me put
it even more clearly: you would like it if your conscience, if your heart, would
allow you to go to the altar in the morning and the dance in the evening; to
spend part of the day in church and the remainder in the cabarets or other
places of amusement; to talk of God at one moment and the next to tell
obscene stories or utter calumnies about your neighbour; to do a good turn
for your next-door neighbour on one occasion and on some other to do him
harm; in other words, to do good and speak well when you are with good
people and to do wrong when you are in bad company.


[url="http://www.hismercy.ca/content/ebooks/Sermons.of.the.Cure.of.Ars.pdf"]http://www.hismercy.ca/content/ebooks/Sermons.of.the.Cure.of.Ars.pdf[/url]

[Theologian in Training]

[quote name='Hietanen' date='01 October 2009 - 06:28 PM' timestamp='1254432509' post='1975820']
Have you read both Saint John of the Cross books, and the Revelations of St. Bridget to the end? If you haven't, do so.

If you have read, or when you will read, and still do not know the answer for your question, than you are probably not doing what you should do, which is, making the changes necessary that the reader be urged to the throughout these books. This is a sign of lukewarmness, and are to be greatly feared.



The next thing I can recommend for you to read which also deals in this in great depth, is the cure of ars by St. John Vianney, which may be read at the site below.

[url="http://www.hismercy.ca/content/ebooks/Sermons.of.the.Cure.of.Ars.pdf"]http://www.hismercy.ca/content/ebooks/Sermons.of.the.Cure.of.Ars.pdf[/url]


Good luck in your spiritual journey my friend. God be with you!
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So, because I am not of the same mindset of you, I am lukewarm? I also have read St. John Vianney, his homilies primarily. And, I have even recommended St. John of the Cross to others.

[Laudate_Dominum]

[quote name='Hietanen' date='01 October 2009 - 03:54 PM' timestamp='1254426881' post='1975790']
No I don't deny purgatory. I believe however that its way harder to be Saved then what most people wants to admit (if you make it hard, through worldly attachments). Our Lord himself says most will be damned, the same tone goes with most Saints. When they professed these truths, then the evil of technology wasn't yet invented that drags your mind even more away from God towards the world. How would the last of days be? What does scripture say about it, and what does other prophecies from Saints say? Do not think for a second that I think my self as Saved, far from. I see my self as damned, I have read enough books to understand that detachment from the world and its pleasures is the narrow road towards salvation and the love of God (since God and his infinite Love is not in worldly pleasures, delights of even of the world. Anyone condemning this opinion condemns the Catholic Faith it self), a road I have hard troubles getting at. A person who thinks himself to be already Saved will probably not be Saved, for this is cause of presumption, negligence in striving for virtue, vain hope, and lukewarmness of spirit and towards God, whilst, on the other hand, being warm and eager in the pleasures and delight of the world (which is the broad road to eternal destruction). Anyone taking his salvation lightly will most likely not be Saved, this is the opinions of most theologians and saints and cannot be condemned. Its a fact that none other than those whom love God with all their heart will come to God. This love will make the world and its pleasures grow cold in you. This an irrefutable fact, and thus, is it very easy to discern what it is you more love and strive for, God, or the world? I see in my self that I am far from this love, for yet is the world and its delight more pleasing to me. My thoughts still hang on here below on worldly things, for that is what I love. For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also! Tell me, have you read the writings of St. John of the Cross?[/quote]


Thanks for clarifying where you are coming from. And yes, I have read the writings of St. John of the Cross but this does not mean that I have truly internalized what I read or that my life is at all expressive of the truths contained in his works (Allen Ginsberg had read the works of St. John of the Cross for crying out loud). I believe that in our culture (and with Catholic culture the way it is in many places) it can be particularly easy to slip into lukewarmness and mediocrity when it comes to our salvation and sanctification so perhaps we agree (oh, and that is to say nothing of human nature in general).

One of the first Catholic books that I read during my conversion years ago was the Dialogue of St. Catherine of Siena. There were things in that book that stayed with me and informed my hermeneutic as I read other Catholic things. One thing was that St. Catherine would not reflect upon our misery and wickedness for too long without then framing it in the context of God's mercy as expressed in the works of Christ. While it is true that we are all sinners and worthy of hell, this should lead us into the heart of Christ and not into a morbid despair. Perhaps the reason many have responded to your message with the feeling that you have diminished the mercy of God is because something has been lacking in your delivery? I personally am glad to hear what you have to say and I fear for my own salvation.

[Resurrexi]

[quote name='Laudate_Dominum' date='02 October 2009 - 03:36 AM' timestamp='1254472614' post='1976136']
One of the first Catholic books that I read during my conversion years ago
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L_D, I had no idea you were a convert!

[OraProMe]

How is anime sinful? Hayao Miyazaki is a genius.

[Winchester]

While it's not sinful, nothing in anime is genuis.

[Kitty]

[quote name='Winchester' date='02 October 2009 - 10:59 AM' timestamp='1254495545' post='1976210']
While it's not sinful, nothing in anime is genuis.
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Are you kidding?

Try spelling genius right next time, kthxbai

Edited October 3, 2009 by Kitty

[Winchester]

Typos do not invalidate arguments.

"Look, these lines mean I'm moving, but the animator was too lazy to draw me moving."

"AAAAAAAA" (repeated ad infinitum in any anime).

In every anime there is insane hair. Every. Anime.



You can't correct someone's typo and then use "kthxbai". It's simply not done. If you're going to use the grammar attack, then you must, for that post at least, use correct grammar. It's in the Geneva convention.

But misspelling "genius" is pretty funny.

Edited October 3, 2009 by Winchester

[Kitty]

[quote name='Winchester' date='02 October 2009 - 10:52 PM' timestamp='1254538366' post='1976537']

"Look, these lines mean I'm moving, but the animator was too lazy to draw me moving."

"AAAAAAAA" (repeated ad infinitum in any anime).

In every anime there is insane hair. Every. Anime.
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Well, all three are simply the styles of anime, like it or not. Besides, many animes have *fantastic* writers and storylines. Howl's Moving Castle? Death Note? Cowboy Bebop? Not to mention, some anime movies feature the most amazing artwork. Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust is a notable one.

And don't diss the hair, dude.
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[quote]You can't correct someone's typo and then use "kthxbai". It's simply not done. If you're going to use the grammar attack, then you must, for that post at least, use correct grammar. It's in the Geneva convention.
[/quote]

I reject your reality and substitute my own.

[OraProMe]

[quote name='Winchester' date='02 October 2009 - 10:52 PM' timestamp='1254538366' post='1976537']
Typos do not invalidate arguments.

"Look, these lines mean I'm moving, but the animator was too lazy to draw me moving."

"AAAAAAAA" (repeated ad infinitum in any anime).

In every anime there is insane hair. Every. Anime.



You can't correct someone's typo and then use "kthxbai". It's simply not done. If you're going to use the grammar attack, then you must, for that post at least, use correct grammar. It's in the Geneva convention.

But misspelling "genius" is pretty funny.
[/quote]

My sister cried when we watched Grave of Fireflies together. It's very touching.

[Laudate_Dominum]

[quote name='OraProMe' date='02 October 2009 - 11:23 PM' timestamp='1254540198' post='1976550']
My sister cried when we watched Grave of Fireflies together. It's very touching.
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[Hietanen]

[quote name='OraProMe' date='02 October 2009 - 04:39 PM' timestamp='1254490775' post='1976188']
How is anime sinful? Hayao Miyazaki is a genius.
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[quote name='Winchester' date='02 October 2009 - 05:59 PM' timestamp='1254495545' post='1976210']
While it's not sinful, nothing in anime is genuis.
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[quote name='Kitty' date='03 October 2009 - 06:15 AM' timestamp='1254539722' post='1976548']
Well, all three are simply the styles of anime, like it or not. Besides, many animes have *fantastic* writers and storylines. Howl's Moving Castle? Death Note? Cowboy Bebop? Not to mention, some anime movies feature the most amazing artwork. Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust is a notable one.[/quote]


Its sad to see how far this has gone already, Antichrist rules in peoples heart just like St. Nilus prophesied would be, maybe they didn't read it or just ignored it completely? You can read it [url="http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?showtopic=98984&view=findpost&p=1975790"]here[/url].
The case seems sadly lost formany already. The world and its pleasures are to strong and people toweak and to blind to fight back. Anime is most obviously satanic influenced, this can anyone who are honest confess, not to mention the mere evil and satanic in just those few you mentioned, Death Note? Please I have seen that and I know the evil of it, yes I have done all the evil which can be done in the world, and for this reason have I learned to see it for what it really is. People persisting in these worldly evil pleasures will not be Saved, and you will all remain blind until the day you take your salvation seriously, admitting that evil is evil and good is good. You will remain blind, and God will permit you to remain blind, for you persist in calling what is evil good and good evil. What amazing blindness, how unlucky the sinner is indeed!


You know for a very certain fact, that you would never in your life, ifyou know you would be dead tomorrow, waste your precious time onsomething worldly, whatever it might be, and even the thought ofworldly evil movies, series, anime or video games, would not even crossyour mind. No you would indeed do something edifying for your soulwhich you knew would draw your mind heavenwards. You knew you would doprayer and penance, go to confession, fast, cry and implore God of thedivine mercy and to die in state of grace.

Do then the same now, while your still alive. Do not wait untildeath suddenly comes and surprises you, then its over for you. Do notwait until the moment of death, for there is great danger, and satantries his most at the moment of death, knowing well that the outcome befor eternity to come. Read these words below, and take heed, lest youfall.

[b]Excerpt from Chapter 19, Book 3[/b]
[url="http://www.prophecyfilm.com/"]www.prophecyfilm.com[/url]

... The Son of God speaks saying: "Thus fear of God is like thegateway into heaven. Many there are who have fallen headlong to theirdeaths, because they cast off the fear of God and were then ashamed tomake a confession before men, although they had not been ashamed to sinbefore God. Therefore, I shall refuse to absolve the sin of a personwho has not cared enough to ask my pardon for a small sin. In thismanner, sins are increased through habitual practice, and a venial sinthat could have been pardoned through contrition becomes a serious onethrough a person's negligence and scorn, as you can deduce from thecase of this soul who has already been condemned.

After having committed a venial and pardonable sin, he augmented itthrough habitual practice, trusting to his other good works, withoutthinking that I might take lesser sins into account. Caught in a net ofhabitual and inordinate pleasure, his soul neither corrected nor curbedhis sinful intention, until the time for his sentencing stood at thegates and his final moment was approaching. This is why, as the endapproached, his conscience was suddenly agitated and painfullyafflicted because he was soon to die and he was afraid to lose thelittle, temporary good he had loved. Up until a sinner's final momentGod abides him, waiting to see if he is going to direct his free willaway from his attachment to sin.

However, if a soul's will is not corrected, that soul is thenconfined by an end without end. What happens is that the devil, knowingthat each person will be judged according to his conscience andintention, labors mightily at the end of life to distract the soul andturn it away from rectitude of intention, and God allows it to happen,since the soul refused to remain vigilant when it ought to have....

Read the rest at,

[url="http://www.prophecyfilm.com/revelations/book3/b3_chapter19.htm"]http://www.prophecyfilm.com/revelations/book3/b3_chapter19.htm[/url]

[Varg]

Death Note is GENIUS. I prefer the manga, though.

[Kitty]

[quote name='Hietanen' date='03 October 2009 - 05:15 PM' timestamp='1254604505' post='1976849']
Its sad to see how far this has gone already, Antichrist rules in peoples heart just like St. Nilus prophesied would be, maybe they didn't read it or just ignored it completely? You can read it [url="http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?showtopic=98984&view=findpost&p=1975790"]here[/url].
The case seems sadly lost formany already. The world and its pleasures are to strong and people toweak and to blind to fight back. Anime is most obviously satanic influenced, this can anyone who are honest confess, not to mention the mere evil and satanic in just those few you mentioned, Death Note? Please I have seen that and I know the evil of it, yes I have done all the evil which can be done in the world, and for this reason have I learned to see it for what it really is. People persisting in these worldly evil pleasures will not be Saved, and you will all remain blind until the day you take your salvation seriously, admitting that evil is evil and good is good. You will remain blind, and God will permit you to remain blind, for you persist in calling what is evil good and good evil. What amazing blindness, how unlucky the sinner is indeed!

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This really made me laugh out loud. I really have nothing to say to counter its hilarity.

I do have to say though, that you obviously have not seen Death Note. If you did, you would know that Death Note's major message is one should never have a power that they cannot handle. You probably just saw an excerpt or a clip of it and said OMG itz da debil's wurk. Or you were just too horrified by the fact that there are fictional death gods in Death Note.

I will watch, play, and listen to whatever I choose, and I don't feel guilty about it. Even God enjoys some good worldly things once in a while, right?
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[Varg]

SLAYYYYYEEEEEEERRRRRRRR!!!!!!