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Chiquitunga
Here are some examples of their artwork. Here is a little Ivory piece.
[img]http://www.creatormundi.com/images/beth1714_b.jpg[/img] Edited by Margaret Clare

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Chiquitunga
Cross of Compassion
[img]http://www.creatormundi.com/images/beth1355_b.jpg[/img]

One of my favorites, Our Lady of the Annunciation:

[img]http://www.creatormundi.com/images/beth4001461_b.jpg[/img] Edited by Margaret Clare

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Chiquitunga
[quote name='philosobrat' post='1115806' date='Nov 9 2006, 01:08 AM']
I've visited the Community of Bethlehem in NY... I have a small baby Jesus the sisters made. It was like another world on that mountain! It was so AMAZING. I wish I could go back. :topsy:

It is hard to explain what it was like. I guess a little heaven. :saint:
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Yeah, it is ...

Here they are at the monastery in Israel

[img]http://www.israelimages.com/medium/1018.jpg[/img] Edited by Margaret Clare

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Chiquitunga
Here is a sister painting pottery at the monastery in Irsael, with a picture of St. Bruno on the wall.[img]http://www.aiq.co.il/images/photos/42/NEZIRA2.jpg[/img]

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Chiquitunga
Les Montsvoirons - Monastère de Bethléem - the Motherhouse near Geneva
[img]http://www.balade3d.com/galerie/p83.jpg[/img]


Monastère Sainte Marie Reine des coeurs - Québec

[img]http://pasto-mission.iquebec.com/organismes/images/monastere-bethleem2.JPG[/img]


in Italy - many old monasteries were turned over to the Monastic Family of Bethlehem in Europe, including several Carthusian Monasteries - I'm not sure which order this one belonged to, but it looks pretty old.
[img]http://www.esicasmo.certosini.info/ESICASM/MONACI%20BETLEMME/MonMCorona2.jpg[/img]

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Chiquitunga
one in France - an old monastery ...
[img]http://www.tandemnetwork.com/volume_1/pages/autun/monis.jpg[/img]

[quote] From a traveler's site:

“At many religious buildings both in Europe and the US, it is not unusual to hear music as you approach, and it is usually a CD playing softly. As we came to the front door, we could hear some music playing....soft beautiful voices singing in perfect harmony. As we opened the door, what we saw caught us both so by surprise, that we froze in our steps, and our mouths just dropped. The sounds we were hearing were coming from the singing of about 50 nuns, lined up along both walls of the chapel, with their beautiful off-white flowing habits making them look like dolls lined up on toy stores shelves. Since their order, the Petites Soeurs de Bethlehem, takes vows of silence, they were separated from each other by narrow wood partitions. The beauty and sounds of the music were simply overwhelming. Nicholas and I just stood there motionless, not being sure whether we were allowed to be there or not. Out of respect I did not take pictures. We were so moved, that tears were rolling down both of our faces ... :sadder: ... :sign: ” [/quote]

And that's it for tonight, or this morning! I've had so much fun finding and posting all these pictures! À Dieu! Edited by Margaret Clare

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Jennifer
Thank you M.C.for sharing these lovely photographs and the Mother's Blog with us . It was a wonderful experience for those little girls and I am sure that they will treasure their gifts. God Bless.

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cathoholic_anonymous
It's good to see that these sisters have so many monasteries. I can understand why - their spirituality is beautiful and it deserves to flourish. If I didn't have Carmel written all over my heart, I could easily fall in love with their life. :love:

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Chiquitunga
Hey guys, I just returned the other day from a visit with these sisters. It was truly a beautiful retreat! I was in the little hermitage, St. Anthony.

I did not bring a camera, but I thought sometime I will borrow my brother's digital camera to show you guys a few of the little statues I bought there.

It was pretty cloudy and foggy most of the time I was there. One night the power went out in a big storm, but that night I prayed the most actually and realized well my dependence on God. :j

I was asking some more questions about the order, and learned that actually the Motherhouse of Bethlehem is at Currière-en-Chatreuse, an old Carthusian charterhouse rather than, Les Montsvoirons, where I went. The Mother Prioress lives at the monastery in Bet Gemal, Israel though.

I asked if Livingston Manor is the only monastery of theirs with English as the main language of the liturgy, and actually they said there is one starting in Galilee, where English will be the main language. They chant/sing the Byzantine liturgy with some Latin elements, like Salve Regina, etc - and have the Roman Novus Ordo Mass with Latin and Byzantine singing/chant. They have a very different liturgy. It is very inspiring and deep though, and well worth it to hear in your own language. I love Gregorian chant, but if I were in this monastic family I would want to sing the Byzantine liturgy mostly in English, rather than mostly in another modern language, I do not know very well. But French is a very beautiful language. I bought a cassette of them singing in French and Latin and it is bbeeeaauuuttiful!

Then I asked about the nationalities of the different sisters in Livingston Manor. There are 12 there (one in the School of Life, makes 13) Two are American (possibly just 1 now, as 1 went to a house in France), a few Canadian, a few French, 2 from Mexico, 1 from Poland, 1 from Belgium, and 1 from Finland. They are really international! They don't actually have too many American vocations. Maybe that will change in years to come. They are hoping to begin a house in Mexico too.

It's true that every time I've been there, there has been at least one Franciscan Friar of the Immaculate, and one CFR. This time there were 2 CFRs and 1 FI. I see on their site that the FIs have a contemplative house pretty close to Livingston Manor in Maine, NY.

I hope hughey/Laura had a great retreat with the CFRs. I am happy to hear of a few others that were on retreat too with religious communities. Well, Bethlehem is definitely # 1 on my list! Talk to you guys again later! Edited by Margaret Clare

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Chiquitunga
[quote name='Margaret Clare' post='1125841' date='Nov 22 2006, 12:55 AM']
They chant/sing the Byzantine liturgy with some Latin elements, like Salve Regina, etc - and have the Roman Novus Ordo Mass with Latin and Byzantine singing/chant...
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Actually on, I believe, Tuesdays and Fridays, they have what they call a silent Mass, where they do not sing/chant - in case any of you were to visit them on those days and wonder what was wrong. Possibly it is this way Mondays too, as it is their 'desert day' where they only gather together in the church for Mass at 5:00 pm. Edited by Margaret Clare

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clarissa
[quote name='Margaret Clare' post='1125841' date='Nov 22 2006, 08:04 AM']

Then I asked about the nationalities of the different sisters in Livingston Manor. There are 12 there (one in the School of Life, makes 13) Two are American (possibly just 1 now, as 1 went to a house in France), a few Canadian, a few French, 2 from Mexico, 1 from Poland, 1 from Belgium, and 1 from Finland. They are really international! They don't actually have too many American vocations. Maybe that will change in years to come. They are hoping to begin a house in Mexico too.
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that's so cool! i had no idea that they have a sister from finland. i'm from there too, and there aren't that many catholics there. it's really good to know that there is a finnish sister praying for all of us... :sign:

blessings!

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philosophette
Does anyone know if the sisters make their own hosts for the mass? I remember them being like a big hunk of break, sort of crispy... It was different, and neat. The superior, I think it was, also held the chalice for the priest and he gave communion by way of intinction.

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Chiquitunga
[quote name='philosobrat' post='1126562' date='Nov 23 2006, 12:01 AM']
Does anyone know if the sisters make their own hosts for the mass? I remember them being like a big hunk of break, sort of crispy... It was different, and neat. The superior, I think it was, also held the chalice for the priest and he gave communion by way of intinction.
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Yes, they do make their own hosts for Mass. It is definitely unleavened and within the regulations of the Church. It is a pretty big host, really a circular piece of unleavened bread. They do give out Communion by way of intinction on the tongue. ( but it says on a note about their liturgy in the guest tribune, that if someone does not wish to receive Holy Communion in this way, they can make a sign to the priest ) The Mother Superior, Sr. Amena, will hold the chalice for the priest unless there is more than one priest there. When I was there, there were 2 priests at each Mass.

Something particular about their Mass is that there is never a homily - just a silent pause after the Gospel. My favorite part is that they have a full half of an hour of silence after Mass, as a thanksgiving after Communion. It is really beautiful. And after this thanksgiving, they consecrate themselves to Mary. The Mother will say, "Most Blessed Virgin Mary ... " and the sisters will say the prayer in silence by themselves from their hearts.

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cathoholic_anonymous
Their custom of silent thanksgiving and consecration is beautiful. Sometimes I feel as if my prayer is much deeper when I pray silently - I can't get distracted by my voice then.

I would miss not having a homily, though.

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Emile James
[quote name='Margaret Clare' date='Nov 9 2006, 01:09 AM' post='1115832']
Les Montsvoirons - Monastère de Bethléem - the Motherhouse near Geneva
[img]http://www.balade3d.com/galerie/p83.jpg[/img]
Monastère Sainte Marie Reine des coeurs - Québec

[img]http://pasto-mission.iquebec.com/organismes/images/monastere-bethleem2.JPG[/img]
in Italy - many old monasteries were turned over to the Monastic Family of Bethlehem in Europe, including several Carthusian Monasteries - I'm not sure which order this one belonged to, but it looks pretty old.
[img]http://www.esicasmo.certosini.info/ESICASM/MONACI%20BETLEMME/MonMCorona2.jpg[/img]
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Glory to Jesus Christ!
Hello, just a note and thought from Canada. The Monastery that you were not sure of who it belonged to before, well having stayed on retreat there last Lent, it is now the Brothers of Bethlehem and the Assumption of The Virgin ,and St Bruno. In Mt Corona, Umbrian mountains (with the Siters 30 Kms away)in Italy. It used to be a Camoldalese Monastery (the first?)
The Brothers ,like the Sisters are a wonderful Community. I too had stayed at Livingston manor, and in France and Italy.The Brothers are in France, near the Chartruese, Italy, and Israel, may return to Spain.
I have more pictures of Brothers of BethlehemI,taly and my stay, that i took for my parents here..
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may God give you all His great Peace.Emile James

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Chiquitunga
[quote name='Jennirom' post='1147341' date='Dec 22 2006, 07:55 AM']
Thank you Emile for sharing these lovely photographs of the monasteries of the Brothers ofBethlehem and the Assumption and St Bruno. :lol:
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Yeah, thank you so much! This is a great addition to this thread on the Monastic Family of Bethlehem. It is hard to find a lot of information about them out there. Mostly you just have to go to one of their monasteries and see for yourself. We've got a pretty good thread about them here though, especially now with this look at the Brothers.

I met some of the brothers too at the Evangelical Month in France. They were great, just like the Sisters. Edited by Margaret Clare

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Emile James
[quote name='Margaret Clare' post='1147607' date='Dec 22 2006, 07:28 PM']
Yeah, thank you so much! This is a great addition to this thread on the Monastic Family of Bethlehem. It is hard to find a lot of information about them out there. Mostly you just have to go to one of their monasteries and see for yourself. We've got a pretty good thread about them here though, especially now with this look at the Brothers.

I met some of the brothers too at the Evangelical Month in France. They were great, just like the Sisters.
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