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EJames
newly found photos of the Moanstery of Monastic Sisters of Bethlehem and the Assumption...
at the old Chartreuse in La Verne( west of st Tropez,France)..allot!! of tourists come by there to take pictures, but there are few public spaces so.....it has a little museum, and The Sisters take up 70% of the property,for cloister.
[img]http://www.linternaute.com/sortir/sorties/architecture/abbaye/la-verne/images/1.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.hiboox.com/images/1606/c5c-wvl.jpg[/img]
[img]http://k43.pbase.com/u30/omayok/upload/18340412.verne122.jpg[/img]
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[img]http://k43.pbase.com/u30/omayok/upload/18340405.verne112.jpg[/img]

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[img]http://k43.pbase.com/u30/omayok/upload/18340412.verne122.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i5.pbase.com/u30/omayok/upload/18340397.verne104.jpg[/img] Edited by EJames

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Chiquitunga
Wow, thank EJames, for the great photos!

Okay, I just wanted to post something I put in another thread about the Srs of Bethlehem here too (particularly as I was writing about the annual Evangelical Month retreat in August, which I don't think I wrote much on in this thread yet):

[quote name='Margaret Clare' post='1179440' date='Jan 29 2007, 03:13 PM']Guten tag, Desire! Willkommen! (I took German in HS and am German/Irish/Croatian American ^_^ ) I highly recommend the Sisters of Bethlehem who have a monastery in Germany. We have a pretty long thread about them about here - [url="http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?showtopic=56995"]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?showtopic=56995[/url]

They are different than many communities, in that they have both a Western and Eastern spirituality, with the icons and everything, (though the Carthusians, which they are very similar to with St. Bruno, also have the icons, but are more Western, with a Latin Office) Their Office and Mass are primarily in the vernacular, with some Latin and sometimes a little Herbrew & Greek, and is the Byzantine Office (though I believe it's their own particular Office, approved by Rome, as the Carthusians have their own office also) Then their Mass is the regular Mass of Pope Paul VI, but with more silence and a few different elements.

They do receive Holy Communion on the tongue, though I didn't see them kneeling, but that may be an option.

I would highly recommend visiting their monastery, and you could ask them about other good orthodox communities in Germany too - which I'm sure they could help you with.

They are truly a wonderful monastic community. And they have this discernment retreat every year at the monastery in Les Montsvoirons, near Geneva, in France, called the Evangelical Month (sounds slightly protestant, but it's not at all, totally solid Catholic).

I went in 2003, and I believe it was the best month I have ever had in my life! It's is such a beautiful retreat! I can't recommend it enough! The conferences were given in French, but all the retreatants from different nationalities had a translator for everything, and it was so incredibly organized. Each retreatant has their own cell, and lots of time in solitude. The conferences are given by the Mother Prioress, Sr. Isabelle, and a few by the Father Prior, through a speaker that each retreatant has in their cell. Then there are times when everyone is together for the Liturgy and Mass in the Church, and other times for adoration, and gatherings for talks, and a couple slideshows - I remember one was of the different places in the Holy Land, where different important events of our Faith took place, like Mount Tabor and the room where the Annunciation was supposed to have happened. And then there was a slideshow about the history of their order, the Monastic Family of Bethlehem of the Assumption of the Virgin and of St. Bruno.

The Sisters in Livingston Manor, NY invited me after my first visit to their monastery in 2003. I wasn't really sure if this was the order God was calling me to, but the Superior, Sr. Amena said this retreat is for everyone discerning their vocation, not only specifically to the Monastic Family of Bethlehem. It is such a beautiful retreat, I can hardly find the words ... I am thinking of going again this year, unless Our Lord has other plans.

There were definitely some sisters from Germany there, I remember & one discerner I remember was from Austria. I was the only American, though there were a few Canadians - but actually I felt really at home with all the people there. The sisters are incredibly friendly. And each retreatant gets what they call an "angel" whom you can talk with personally to ask questions and everything. I got Sr. Marie d'Aire, who was French but spoke English very well, and she was awesome to talk with! Then my translator was a sister from England, from one of the French monasteries.

Even if you are pretty sure you're not called to this community, I still highly recommend this retreat. It gives a whole overview of salvation history, and is great formation for the contemplative life. I remember so many things to this day, that I didn't know before the retreat. Each day covers a different part of salvation history, Sacred Scripture, and other topics relating to monastic life. It's starts with the existence of the Trinity before time & the world, the angels & their Fall, Creation of man, & our Fall, and everything that led up to God's plan of salvation in Christ, though not in every detail, just an overview - like the prophets, Abrahman .. Moses (and relates them to the contemplative life of faith & prayer) And within the month, they celebrate one day as Christmas, and then even have a Holy Week. Their celebration, if celebration is the right word .., of Good Friday in the middle of August, was really my most prayerful "Good Friday" ever. And yes, it's always in the month of August, with the feast of the Assumption right in the middle - the main patronage of their order. And they do not ask for any payment for this retreat. It is just that you have to pay for your plane ticket, but maybe it would not require a plane ticket for you, or least would be much less traveling to get to. I flew to NY and then to Gevena, and they picked me up right at the airport, with a big sign with my name on it. :j ...[/quote]

Also, I wanted to add, that there is no cost or donation requested for this retreat, only we did give them one, which was accepted with much gratitude. But it seriously is not expected. It's just that you have to pay for your plane ticket. Edited by Margaret Clare

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Chiquitunga
Also for this retreat at Les Montsvoirons, it doesn't matter if you can't understand French (not sure if I put this on here before) as they have many sister translators there, that can translate all the conferences for you, and you hear the version in your own language in the speaker in your cell, though you can still hear the Mother Prioress, Sr. Isabelle giving the talks in French in the background, which is really neat. I realy felt on this retreat a great unity in this Monastic Family, from the French sisters, to the Spanish, Italiain, German, Polish, Lituanian .. etc. Most people there could speak at least some English, and the Prioress speaks English very well. They really didn't make me feel like a foreigner at all, or a spoiled American or anything like that. Everyone was so welcoming. I'll always remember this one French novice that welcomed me, saying a few times, "It's a joy to have you here, a joy!" ^_^

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EJames
[quote name='Margaret Clare' post='1198523' date='Feb 17 2007, 05:43 PM']Also for this retreat at Les Montsvoirons, it doesn't matter if you can't understand French (not sure if I put this on here before) as they have many sister translators there, that can translate all the conferences for you, and you hear the version in your own language in the speaker in your cell, though you can still hear the Mother Prioress, Sr. Isabelle giving the talks in French in the background, which is really neat. I realy felt on this retreat a great unity in this Monastic Family, from the French sisters, to the Spanish, Italiain, German, Polish, Lituanian .. etc. Most people there could speak at least some English, and the Prioress speaks English very well. They really didn't make me feel like a foreigner at all, or a spoiled American or anything like that. Everyone was so welcoming. I'll always remember this one French novice that welcomed me, saying a few times, "It's a joy to have you here, a joy!" ^_^[/quote]
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Monastère Notre-Dame de la Gloire-Dieu
Les Montsvoirons
74420 Boëge , :rolleyes: France

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EJames
[quote name='EJames' post='1196779' date='Feb 15 2007, 11:00 PM']newly found photos of the Moanstery of Monastic Sisters of Bethlehem and the Assumption...
at the old Chartreuse in La Verne( west of st Tropez,France)..allot!! of tourists come by there to take pictures, but there are few public spaces so.....it has a little museum, and The Sisters take up 70% of the property,for cloister.
[img]http://www.linternaute.com/sortir/sorties/architecture/abbaye/la-verne/images/1.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.hiboox.com/images/1606/c5c-wvl.jpg[/img]
[img]http://k43.pbase.com/u30/omayok/upload/18340412.verne122.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i5.pbase.com/u30/omayok/upload/18340397.verne104.jpg[/img]
[img]http://k47.pbase.com/u30/omayok/upload/18340413.verne123.jpg[/img]
[img]http://k43.pbase.com/u30/omayok/upload/18340405.verne112.jpg[/img][/quote]
thse dont come up as picst on here for me??
[url="http://k43.pbase.com/u30/omayok/upload/18340412.verne122.jpg"]http://k43.pbase.com/u30/omayok/upload/18340412.verne122.jpg[/url]
[url="http://i5.pbase.com/u30/omayok/upload/18340397.verne104.jpg"]http://i5.pbase.com/u30/omayok/upload/18340397.verne104.jpg[/url] Edited by EJames

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Chiquitunga
Wow, this photographer posted here many great pictures of the Sisters of Bethlehem at Bet Gemal, Israel! [url="http://www.photoshelter.com/package-show/P0000_Q5bGDyrCKY"]http://www.photoshelter.com/package-show/P0000_Q5bGDyrCKY[/url]

I recognize some sisters here from the retreat!

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Chiquitunga
A couple pages from an old pamphlet of the Monastic Family of Bethlehem

[url="http://imageshack.us"][img]http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/7131/drawingfromsourcesbv7.jpg[/img][/url]

[url="http://imageshack.us"][img]http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/5999/lifena7.jpg[/img][/url]

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Chiquitunga
They profess the 5 vows that Carthusians profess of Poverty, Chastity, Obedience, Stability, and Conversion of Life, as well as some promises unique to their Monastic Family.

I was reading a little more on them in their newer pamphlet, and discovered that they are a Religious Institute of Pontifical Right, as of 1998. :j

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Chiquitunga
The above pages I got from the old pamphlet from Livingston Manor posted on file at the Internat'l Fellowship of St. Bruno site - [url="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IFSB/"]http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IFSB/[/url] Edited by Margaret Clare

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Chiquitunga
Just posting this site again, [url="http://catholicmemories.blogspot.com/2006/10/sisters-of-bethlehem.html"]Memories of a Catholic Wife and Mother: The Sisters of Bethlehem[/url]

Pictures of Sr. Marider at the Monastère de Notre Dame de la Gloire-Dieu at Les Montsvoirons, Diocese of Annecy, France

[center][img]http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/6445/2601/1600/HPIM4365%20(Medium).3.jpg[/img][/center]


[center][img]http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/6445/2601/1600/HPIM4363%20(Medium).0.jpg[/img][/center]

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philosophette
Who is the person in black?
[url="http://www.photoshelter.com/img-show/I0000KdKL9EtYGCQ"]http://www.photoshelter.com/img-show/I0000KdKL9EtYGCQ[/url]

These photos are awesome... makes me long to go back to Livingston Manor for a visit.

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Sr Mary Catharine OP
[quote name='philosobrat' post='1239511' date='Apr 12 2007, 01:52 AM']Who is the person in black?
[url="http://www.photoshelter.com/img-show/I0000KdKL9EtYGCQ"]http://www.photoshelter.com/img-show/I0000KdKL9EtYGCQ[/url]

These photos are awesome... makes me long to go back to Livingston Manor for a visit.[/quote]

She's what is called a "School of Life" ie postulant/novice. They actually wear dark blue although this one may be wearing black.

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EJames
Christ is Risen!
at the NewLturgicalMovement linked below, there is a little discussion about the Sisters/Brothers of Bethlehem, and the Pictures form Israel..

[url="http://thenewliturgicalmovement.blogspot.com/2007/04/monastic-liturgy-in-holy-land.html"]http://thenewliturgicalmovement.blogspot.c...-holy-land.html[/url]

comments here on there Church structure and Liturgy
[url="http://www.haloscan.com/comments/stribe/4809995444072634287/"]http://www.haloscan.com/comments/stribe/4809995444072634287/[/url]

pax
[url="http://ejvideo-place.blogspot.com/2007/02/monastic-community-of-bethlehem.html"]http://ejvideo-place.blogspot.com/2007/02/...-bethlehem.html[/url]
and Sisters in Quebec,near Montreal.. when Church was still being built
[img]http://thumbsnap.com/images/RJEEm3r6.jpg[/img]
[img]http://thumbsnap.com/images/eEBNZg1r.jpg[/img] Edited by EJames

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Chertsey, Quebec, Canada
[img]http://www.st-louis-de-france.org/albums/album20/IMG_1278.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.st-louis-de-france.org/albums/album20/IMG_1241.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.st-louis-de-france.org/albums/album20/IMG_1206.sized.jpg[/img]

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