Chiquitunga Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 (edited) Hey guys, I just returned the other day from a visit with these sisters. It was truly a beautiful retreat! I was in the little hermitage, St. Anthony. I did not bring a camera, but I thought sometime I will borrow my brother's digital camera to show you guys a few of the little statues I bought there. It was pretty cloudy and foggy most of the time I was there. One night the power went out in a big storm, but that night I prayed the most actually and realized well my dependence on God. :j I was asking some more questions about the order, and learned that actually the Motherhouse of Bethlehem is at Currière-en-Chatreuse, an old Carthusian charterhouse rather than, Les Montsvoirons, where I went. The Mother Prioress lives at the monastery in Bet Gemal, Israel though. I asked if Livingston Manor is the only monastery of theirs with English as the main language of the liturgy, and actually they said there is one starting in Galilee, where English will be the main language. They chant/sing the Byzantine liturgy with some Latin elements, like Salve Regina, etc - and have the Roman Novus Ordo Mass with Latin and Byzantine singing/chant. They have a very different liturgy. It is very inspiring and deep though, and well worth it to hear in your own language. I love Gregorian chant, but if I were in this monastic family I would want to sing the Byzantine liturgy mostly in English, rather than mostly in another modern language, I do not know very well. But French is a very beautiful language. I bought a cassette of them singing in French and Latin and it is bbeeeaauuuttiful! Then I asked about the nationalities of the different sisters in Livingston Manor. There are 12 there (one in the School of Life, makes 13) Two are American (possibly just 1 now, as 1 went to a house in France), a few Canadian, a few French, 2 from Mexico, 1 from Poland, 1 from Belgium, and 1 from Finland. They are really international! They don't actually have too many American vocations. Maybe that will change in years to come. They are hoping to begin a house in Mexico too. It's true that every time I've been there, there has been at least one Franciscan Friar of the Immaculate, and one CFR. This time there were 2 CFRs and 1 FI. I see on their site that the FIs have a contemplative house pretty close to Livingston Manor in Maine, NY. I hope hughey/Laura had a great retreat with the CFRs. I am happy to hear of a few others that were on retreat too with religious communities. Well, Bethlehem is definitely # 1 on my list! Talk to you guys again later! Edited November 22, 2006 by Margaret Clare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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