God Isn't All-Good

[Guest Jon]

[b]This is the most interesting thread I have read on any forum. Thank you, Varq.

The very Nature of God is in question.
Can human values, understood by our limited little pee brains - restricted by
the miniscule spectrum of our senses here on this teeny speck of a planet...why, a dog can
hear more than the so-called "Crown of Creation"... A bird can see a mouse from a mile up...a bat can veer away from a leaf as he flies...humans are so limited in their logic and ability to comprehend Something beyond anything from Gene Rodenberry's imagination...can we truly "know and understand" (Jer 9:23) [i]Him[/i] -the Creator of the Infinite and the infinitessmal?

Therefore, could we possibly know and understand reasons for His actions and "rules".

I'm not saying we can't --but what we might understand and know of the Creator --- I say, would have to be perceived on another level of perception than this ordinary human mind performs in.

Even Jesus had to descend to our fleshly 3rd dimensional level to help us understand even enough to get us by in this life and beyond.

John 16:12 -there are so many things I want to tell you - but you can not bear them now. [u]I'll say.[/u]

So, try as you all may to explain to Varq the Nature of God ---I say it is experiential and it is way past logic ---the Bible is a roadmap pointing the way. The menu is not the meal.

Be still and know that I am God. PS 46:10 and PS 91:1 Dwell in the secret place... are deeper than most understand ---so how is it we are to presume much understanding of the Creator of billions of galaxies -let alone 150 billion stars in our own little galaxy?

I will not be one, Varq, to presume I know much -and what I do, would be hard to put into words.

But, I stand in awe and reverence. God's reasons are His Own and are not made to be questioned by me (or Job), but to be deeply and profoundly understood in that secret place - that is in stillness --that place within where dwells His Kingdom.
Get to that place and I believe your desire to understand would be fulfilled.

Imo.
Thank you for this thread,
Jon[/b]

[Apotheoun]

I do not think that anyone in this thread has tried to define [i]what[/i] God is in essence; instead, the posters have merely emphasized the fact that God does not need worship, nor does He stand in need of creation in order to be whole. It is creation that needs God.

The fact that God is hyper-ousias (beyond essence) has been discussed before at Phatmass:

[url="http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?showtopic=81541"][u]God as Unknowable[/u][/url]

[Guest Jon]

Thanks for that link.