Laudate_Dominum Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 [quote name='HisChildForever' date='10 December 2009 - 10:45 AM' timestamp='1260459948' post='2017457'] As an aside, I never knew that was a rule - the one L_D posted. I know that doesn't excuse some of the things I said in this thread, but I probably would have been more mindful of my posts if I was aware of it. (In any event, what I said about Muhammad IS historical fact. However, I would have worded it differently.) [/quote] I heart u btw.
dominicansoul Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 [quote name='Laudate_Dominum' date='10 December 2009 - 10:43 AM' timestamp='1260459826' post='2017456'] It doesn't go totally ignored. If you see some hateful nonsense that has nothing to do with constructive debate feel free to report it. [/quote] that's not what I'm talking about...what i mean, is why does everyone jump all over the Christians, complaining about their posts, but no one ever mentions the blasphemy that the non-believers love to throw around... for example: "your religion is a joke." ignored "mohammad the pedophile." HOW DARE YOU! -1....and then the following conversation ensues about how uncharitable we all are...
HisChildForever Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 [quote name='Apotheoun' date='10 December 2009 - 10:46 AM' timestamp='1260460014' post='2017458'] When you study the early history of Islam, you see that Mohammad was involved in battle after battle, so to the title "Warlord" and the term "Warmonger" are accurate. [/quote] Yeah this is true too.
Apotheoun Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 (edited) I have to be faithful to Christ, and if that means that I get suspended or banned, so be it. I cannot compromise my faith just in order to post at an internet forum, even though I like Phatmass a lot (I wouldn't have over 17,000 posts otherwise), but I love Christ a lot more. It is by the grace of Christ alone that I am alive, and my life is His. Edited December 10, 2009 by Apotheoun
Laudate_Dominum Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 What is considered inappropriate is not representing the truth, but actually misrepresenting the truth, which is what often happens when otherwise meaningful debates degenerate into contests of insulting rhetoric.
HisChildForever Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 [quote name='Laudate_Dominum' date='10 December 2009 - 10:48 AM' timestamp='1260460094' post='2017460'] I heart u btw. [/quote] @@ LOL, just kidding. Yeah, I don't retract my statements but I will admit that they should have been worded differently, and shouldn't have been randomly thrown around. You know I have a short fuse, and when that guy started attacking my physical appearance and my sex - not explicitly in regards to sex but his behavior implied it - well you get the idea.
HisChildForever Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 [quote name='Apotheoun' date='10 December 2009 - 10:48 AM' timestamp='1260460092' post='2017459'] If I am banned for speaking truthfully about Islam, so be it. [/quote] I don't want you banned.
Apotheoun Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 [quote name='Laudate_Dominum' date='10 December 2009 - 08:56 AM' timestamp='1260460571' post='2017464'] What is considered inappropriate is not representing the truth, but actually misrepresenting the truth, which is what often happens when otherwise meaningful debates degenerate into contests of insulting rhetoric. [/quote] I stand by everything that I have said. My comments have been based on my formal study of Islam, and my private reading before and after completing my degree.
Apotheoun Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 (edited) [quote name='Laudate_Dominum' date='10 December 2009 - 08:56 AM' timestamp='1260460571' post='2017464'] What is considered inappropriate is not representing the truth, but actually misrepresenting the truth, which is what often happens when otherwise meaningful debates degenerate into contests of insulting rhetoric. [/quote] St. John Damascene referred to Islam as "vile superstition" are you saying that a Christian cannot follow that saint's example? Edited December 10, 2009 by Apotheoun
Laudate_Dominum Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 [quote name='Apotheoun' date='10 December 2009 - 11:00 AM' timestamp='1260460815' post='2017470'] I stand by everything that I have said. My comments have been based on my formal study of Islam, and my private reading before and after completing my degree. [/quote] I highly doubt that you're in any danger of being banned bro. lulz.
Laudate_Dominum Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 [quote name='Apotheoun' date='10 December 2009 - 11:01 AM' timestamp='1260460883' post='2017471'] St. John Damascene referred to Islam as "vile superstition" are you saying that a Christian cannot follow that saint's example? [/quote] Logic fail Todd.
Jesus_lol Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 [quote name='dominicansoul' date='10 December 2009 - 07:33 AM' timestamp='1260459223' post='2017450'] what about "your religion is a joke" comment made by our visiting "brothers?" why is it that the Christians in this forum are always criticized but the non-believers are the ones who get away with murder? i just don't get it... [/quote] certainly neither is nice at all, but both sides have been swing around the first kind of remark. i would disagree about the non catholics getting easy treatment, it sure doesnt take much for me to get a warning, sometimes for things commonly said by other peeps in the phorums. [quote name='Apotheoun' date='10 December 2009 - 07:48 AM' timestamp='1260460092' post='2017459'] If I am banned for speaking truthfully about Islam, so be it. [/quote] kinda overdoing the martyr thing, should i get my violin and bagpipes?
Apotheoun Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 [quote name='Laudate_Dominum' date='10 December 2009 - 09:04 AM' timestamp='1260461053' post='2017475'] Logic fail Todd. [/quote] It is not a "logic fail" at all, it is a truthful comment made by a Christian who lived under Islamic rule. In fact, it is a theological statement of fact.
bhrhrahraa Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 [quote name='Jesus_lol' date='10 December 2009 - 11:12 AM' timestamp='1260461563' post='2017482'] certainly neither is nice at all, but both sides have been swing around the first kind of remark. i would disagree about the non catholics getting easy treatment, it sure doesnt take much for me to get a warning, sometimes for things commonly said by other peeps in the phorums. kinda overdoing the martyr thing, should i get my violin and bagpipes? [/quote] Saw you on MM.
Apotheoun Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 [quote name='Jesus_lol' date='10 December 2009 - 09:12 AM' timestamp='1260461563' post='2017482'] kinda overdoing the martyr thing, should i get my violin and bagpipes? [/quote] No, not a "martyr thing." I just took L_D's post at face value.
HisChildForever Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 [quote name='Jesus_lol' date='10 December 2009 - 11:12 AM' timestamp='1260461563' post='2017482'] kinda overdoing the martyr thing, should i get my violin and bagpipes? [/quote]
Laudate_Dominum Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 [quote name='Apotheoun' date='10 December 2009 - 11:13 AM' timestamp='1260461613' post='2017483'] It is not a "logic fail" at all, it is a truthful comment made by a Christian who lived under Islamic rule. In fact, it is a theological statement of fact. [/quote] Oh, I wasn't accusing that great Father of a logic fail, it was just my way of refusing your bait. The post struck me as a red-herring.
Jesus_lol Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 [quote name='bhrhrahraa' date='10 December 2009 - 08:14 AM' timestamp='1260461658' post='2017484'] Saw you on MM. [/quote] yup [quote name='Apotheoun' date='10 December 2009 - 08:14 AM' timestamp='1260461677' post='2017485'] No, not a "martyr thing." I just took L_D's post at face value. [/quote] sorry this post made me laugh. not at the post, but because i read it as "no not a martyr thing, i just looked at L_D's face." also, did anyone notice the thread is called "honor killings is found in the Qu'ran(sp?)" awesome grammar.
bhrhrahraa Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 [quote name='Jesus_lol' date='10 December 2009 - 11:27 AM' timestamp='1260462475' post='2017494'] yup sorry this post made me laugh. not at the post, but because i read it as "no not a martyr thing, i just looked at L_D's face." also, did anyone notice the thread is called "honor killings is found in the Qu'ran(sp?)" awesome grammar. [/quote] I don't think I have seen anyone quote the Qur'an. All I see are hadiths. If that's the case, [mod]personal attack- MIKolbe[/mod] as to not know the difference.
HisChildForever Posted December 10, 2009 Posted December 10, 2009 [quote name='bhrhrahraa' date='10 December 2009 - 11:30 AM' timestamp='1260462608' post='2017499'] I don't think I have seen anyone quote the Qur'an. All I see are hadiths. If that's the case, cearly the thread starter is pathetic as to not know the difference. [/quote] That "thread starter" is my friend. Stop insulting him.
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