mortify Posted December 23, 2009 Posted December 23, 2009 (edited) I made a thread on the state of the Catholic Church which revealed the majority of Roman Catholics are "upbeat" about it. Yet this thread shows the majority of people believe the Church promulgated something it was better off never doing... how could this be? Edited December 23, 2009 by mortify
Resurrexi Posted December 23, 2009 Posted December 23, 2009 [quote name='mortify' date='22 December 2009 - 11:36 PM' timestamp='1261543009' post='2024869'] I made a thread on the state of the Catholic Church which revealed the majority of Roman Catholics are "upbeat" about it. Yet this thread shows the majority of people believe the Church promulgated something it was better off never doing... how could this be? [/quote] Summorum Pontificum.
mortify Posted December 23, 2009 Posted December 23, 2009 [quote name='Resurrexi' date='22 December 2009 - 11:39 PM' timestamp='1261543171' post='2024872'] Summorum Pontificum. [/quote] It was a positive move in that the Magisterium confirmed what traditional Catholics always knew, that the ancient form of liturgy was never abrogated, and that Catholics have a right to celebrate it. Things are far from being restored however, which should be the goal if you believe the novus ordo should have never been promulgated.
Resurrexi Posted December 23, 2009 Posted December 23, 2009 [quote name='mortify' date='23 December 2009 - 12:26 AM' timestamp='1261545991' post='2024887'] Things are far from being restored however, which should be the goal if you believe the novus ordo should have never been promulgated. [/quote] It is my opinion and hope that the Benedictine liturgical renewal will soon drip down to the average parish.
aalpha1989 Posted December 23, 2009 Posted December 23, 2009 [quote name='Resurrexi' date='23 December 2009 - 01:04 AM' timestamp='1261548258' post='2024906'] It is my opinion and hope that the Benedictine liturgical renewal will soon drip down to the average parish. [/quote] I'm not sure it will happen soon, but it is also my hope.
jeffpugh Posted December 23, 2009 Posted December 23, 2009 Benedictines have been there for the Church in the early days. I'm pretty sure it's safe to hope in them in the now
Veridicus Posted January 1, 2010 Posted January 1, 2010 I'm glad this thread was started. It has been a boon for me to read all of these opinions. I've been reading Alcuin Reid's "The Organic Development of the Liturgy" and am forming my own opinions more concretely on this topic. I voted "worried" on Mortify's other thread about the current state of the Roman Church. I agree with many of the things that the people on this thread have said. While the NO Mass is valid and in some ways more accessible to modern man, I cannot deny that some of the changes implemented are impovrished of doctrinal emphasis and seem bereft of solid connections with the missal that proceded it. It is unfortunate that it seems that the individuals who implemented Sacrosanctum Concilium considered many of the liturgical developments between 400AD and 1600AD to be decadent and unnecessarily rubrical and thus in need of deletion. My own experience with Catholics who have a completely heterodox understanding of the True Presence is proof in many ways of the failure of the NO Liturgy (and modern Catechetics) to instill belief in the transubstantiation; there is ABSOLUTELY NO confusion about the sacredness of the Blessed Sacrament in the EF Liturgy. Despite my own frustrations, I am quite hopeful for the future of the Latin Rite liturgy.
Laudate_Dominum Posted January 7, 2010 Posted January 7, 2010 [quote name='Veridicus' date='01 January 2010 - 02:48 AM' timestamp='1262332138' post='2028040'] I've been reading Alcuin Reid's "The Organic Development of the Liturgy" ... [/quote] Good book! Alcuin Reid is pretty cool imo.
jeffpugh Posted January 9, 2010 Posted January 9, 2010 I agree! Shout out to the Camster-Ja[u][/u]ime duo! I like Veridicus' post though.
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