Don't You Realise...

[Varg]

...Prayer does nothing. It's useless and makes no difference to anything. Why bother?

[Nihil Obstat]

Are you having a troll relapse?

[Marie-Therese]

So I'm guessing the whole Odin thing must not be working so well, huh?

[CatherineM]

Prayer does change things. Sometimes, like any good parent, The Father has to say no. That doesn't mean our prayers aren't listened to, or even answered in a way that we can't readily comprehend.

[Varg]

[quote name='CatherineM' date='20 December 2009 - 05:49 PM' timestamp='1261349381' post='2023686']
Prayer does change things.
[/quote]
Prove it.

[Moosey]

We can't prove it to you Varg, because your heart isn't open. If I gave you an example you'd just say it was a coincidence when I know in my heart it was because I had faith and relied on God to hear me. I know this sounds stupid to you but it's worked out for me for quite a few years now.

[Sternhauser]

[quote name='Varg' date='20 December 2009 - 05:59 PM' timestamp='1261349944' post='2023697']
Prove it.
[/quote]

Keep seeking God, Varg. And you will find Him. He loves you and is waiting for you to open your heart.

~Sternhauser

[HisChildForever]

[Fidei Defensor]

[quote name='CatherineM' date='20 December 2009 - 04:49 PM' timestamp='1261349381' post='2023686']
Prayer does change things. Sometimes, like any good parent, The Father has to say no. That doesn't mean our prayers aren't listened to, or even answered in a way that we can't readily comprehend.
[/quote]
I take issue with the fact that "sometimes" = always.

Edited December 20, 2009 by fidei defensor

[Lil Red]

+J.M.J.+
it's not about my will but about His will and His plan for my life.

[Lil Red]

[quote name='Varg' date='20 December 2009 - 04:40 PM' timestamp='1261348819' post='2023675']
...Prayer does nothing. It's useless and makes no difference to anything. Why bother?
[/quote]
+J.M.J.+
varg, i don't know what's going on in your life right now, but i will pray for you.

[CatherineM]

[quote name='fidei defensor' date='20 December 2009 - 05:31 PM' timestamp='1261351898' post='2023718']
I take issue with the fact that "sometimes" = always.
[/quote]
If you feel as if every prayer is ignored, perhaps you are praying for the wrong things.

[Fidei Defensor]

[quote name='CatherineM' date='20 December 2009 - 05:36 PM' timestamp='1261352202' post='2023722']
If you feel as if every prayer is ignored, perhaps you are praying for the wrong things.
[/quote]
I don't think happiness, health or safety are bad things to pray for.

[Jaime]

This morning I prayed that you would start a silly thread.



*high fives the room*

[KnightofChrist]

[quote name='fidei defensor' date='20 December 2009 - 06:42 PM' timestamp='1261352570' post='2023724']
I don't think happiness, health or safety are bad things to pray for.
[/quote]

There not per-say but one must accept that sometimes the answer to those prayers is, no.

[Jaime]

per se

[Lil Red]

+J.M.J.+
They're

[Fidei Defensor]

[quote name='KnightofChrist' date='20 December 2009 - 05:44 PM' timestamp='1261352675' post='2023726']
There not per-say but one must accept that sometimes the answer to those prayers is, no.
[/quote]
And as I said above, I take issue when "sometimes" means "always." Sometimes means that some prayers should be answered. If none are answered, then the word used should be "always."

[Brother Adam]

[quote name='Varg' date='20 December 2009 - 06:59 PM' timestamp='1261349944' post='2023697']
Prove it.
[/quote]

Hope.

Think about it.

Edited December 20, 2009 by Brother Adam

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='fidei defensor' date='20 December 2009 - 05:50 PM' timestamp='1261353045' post='2023732']
And as I said above, I take issue when "sometimes" means "always." Sometimes means that some prayers should be answered. If none are answered, then the word used should be "always."
[/quote]
Most broad generalizations are wrong.

Even if you could prove that no prayer has ever been answered....... which you definitely cannot, you still couldn't validly say "always".