rhetoricfemme Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 [url="http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/01/13/haiti.pat.robertson/index.html"]The Haitians "were under the heel of the French. You know, Napoleon III and whatever," Robertson said on his broadcast Wednesday. "And they got together and swore a pact to the devil. They said, 'We will serve you if you will get us free from the French.' True story. And so, the devil said, 'OK, it's a deal.' "[/url] Is Mr. Robertson or his ministry even doing anything to help Haiti out? I know many missionaries help out in Haiti, though I don't know if his ministry has ever been involved with any of them. I'm just mad that someone who claims to speak for Christ prefers to do an 'I told you so' dance instead of offering love and help.
Sternhauser Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 [quote name='rhetoricfemme' date='13 January 2010 - 08:01 PM' timestamp='1263430867' post='2036560'] [url="http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/01/13/haiti.pat.robertson/index.html"]The Haitians "were under the heel of the French. You know, Napoleon III and whatever," Robertson said on his broadcast Wednesday. "And they got together and swore a pact to the devil. They said, 'We will serve you if you will get us free from the French.' True story. And so, the devil said, 'OK, it's a deal.' "[/url] Is Mr. Robertson or his ministry even doing anything to help Haiti out? I know many missionaries help out in Haiti, though I don't know if his ministry has ever been involved with any of them. I'm just mad that someone who claims to speak for Christ prefers to do an 'I told you so' dance instead of offering love and help. [/quote] Pat Robertson should get the Hireling Shepherd Trophy. ~Sternhauser
Era Might Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 [quote]There were some present at that very time who told him of the Galileans whose blood Pilate had mingled with their sacrifices. And he answered them, "Do you think that these Galileans were worse sinners than all the other Galileans, because they suffered thus? I tell you, No; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish. Or those eighteen upon whom the tower in Siloam fell and killed them, do you think that they were worse offenders than all the others who dwelt in Jerusalem? I tell you, No; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish." --Luke 13:1-5[/quote]
MissyP89 Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 Oh, Pat...*sigh* This is the same man who claims he can bench press 2000 pounds. True story.
zunshynn Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 [quote name='MissyP89' date='13 January 2010 - 06:51 PM' timestamp='1263433878' post='2036595'] Oh, Pat...*sigh* This is the same man who claims he can bench press 2000 pounds. True story. [/quote] [img]http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a12/taylor_158/lolwut.jpg[/img]
BG45 Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 [quote name='MissyP89' date='13 January 2010 - 09:51 PM' timestamp='1263433878' post='2036595'] Oh, Pat...*sigh* This is the same man who claims he can bench press 2000 pounds. True story. [/quote] And said the Asian tsunami was God's wrath, that the American coast would be ravaged by a tsunami that year, that the State Department needed to be nuked, etc. True story.
Lounge Daddy Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 [quote] Is Mr. Robertson or his ministry even doing anything to help Haiti out? [/quote] Nah, he just likes to list people who are going to hell. That's the problem with people who think that every time something bad happens it's punishment. These kinds of people freak out when they get sick, wondering what they did wrong. Worse when they get injured. Who wants to construct a sad frightening world like that for themselves?
Selah Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 Pat, repeat after me: Open mouth. Insert foot...
Vincent Vega Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 What a jackass. Whether a direct/indirect consequence of sin or not, now is not an appropriate time to speculate. God have mercy on him.
Winchester Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.
Selah Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 [quote]What a jackass.[/quote] I love how blunt you are. These people are suffering. He needs to shut up and show compassion and kindness for these people. Even if they [i]did [/i]supposedly make a pact with the Devil, he sure as Tarturus has no right to point it out. I hope to God no one treats him this way when he loses a loves one. Mind your own beaver dam business, Patty boy. [quote]That's the problem with people who think that every time something bad happens it's punishment. These kinds of people freak out when they get sick, wondering what they did wrong. Worse when they get injured. Who wants to construct a sad frightening world like that for themselves? [/quote] Who told these poor people that this is how God operates?
Thy Geekdom Come Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 The only Haitian I've ever met is also the closest thing to a saint I've ever met.
Jaime Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 [quote name='Don John of Austria' date='05 September 2005 - 02:54 AM' timestamp='1125906842' post='711631'] Well that kind of rejects both Scripture and Tradition, God most certianly punishes Nations and States and even cities, 4 hurrcaines in just over a month last year for Flordia, Katrina for N.O. both are Chastisments, God punishes those that offend him, and those that offend him greatly he chastises greatly, at least that is what both theBbible and the Tradition of the Church tell us. [/quote] Sorry this reminded me of something..
homeschoolmom Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 You know, the American colonies were under the authority of the British crown-- King George III and all, you know. Then 'they' made a pact with the devil to kick the British out. And the devil said, "Okay." True story. I mean, look, the United States and Canada-- they're on the same continent... The US has hurricanes hitting it all the time, but Canada doesn't. So, there you go.
Vincent Vega Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 [quote name='hot stuff' date='13 January 2010 - 10:01 PM' timestamp='1263438106' post='2036648'] Sorry this reminded me of something.. [/quote] What do you mean?
Jaime Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 [quote name='USAirwaysIHS' date='13 January 2010 - 10:10 PM' timestamp='1263438646' post='2036657'] What do you mean? [/quote] I mean there are even people who used to frequent here that want to blame people for the disasters that befall them. DJ and I got into it big time a few years ago when I tried to correct him.
Winchester Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 To say that God chastises nations is okay. To say something is a chastisement is another matter entirely.
Sternhauser Posted January 14, 2010 Posted January 14, 2010 If God is punishing Haitians for making a pact with the devil to get Napoleon III out of Haiti, I think He's just killed 100,000 of the wrong Haitians. Unless, of course, the earth they tread is guilty. ~Sternhauser
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