Contraception

[Resurrexi]

I'd rather the earth become overpopulated than anyone offend God by the grave sin of contraception.

[Veridicus]

[quote name='Resurrexi' date='26 January 2010 - 05:56 PM' timestamp='1264550196' post='2045259']
I'd rather the earth become overpopulated than anyone offend God by the grave sin of contraception.
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While I heartily agree and this is the most concise phrasing, the problem is that an atheist will read this sentence until they see the words "offend God" and then summarily dismiss it .

[philbo]

[quote name='Veridicus' date='27 January 2010 - 12:37 AM' timestamp='1264549039' post='2045245']
The question of eugenics inevitably enters the arena, not as a paranoid fantasy, but instead as a means of logistics in the necessary enforcement of contraceptive policy by the state.[/quote]
I can't believe you people.. so the only two options are a complete lack of contraception leading as quick as is humanly possible to an overpopulated earth.. or state-sponsored eugenics?

You don't like the idea of eugenics, therefore ban contraception and let's hurry up the end of the world as quickly as possible!

Don't you think that it just might be possible to find a middle way in there somewhere?


[quote name='havok579257' date='27 January 2010 - 12:41 AM' timestamp='1264549311' post='2045249']
an author of make beliieve books convinced you to be an athiest... that seems.....
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No, I think you'll find that's "atheist". At least I can spell.

And yes, Veridicus is right in that your comment is marvellously ironic. But you should try reading Harry Harrison - he has written some fantastic books.



[quote name='Resurrexi' date='27 January 2010 - 12:56 AM' timestamp='1264550196' post='2045259']
I'd rather the earth become overpopulated than anyone offend God by the grave sin of contraception.
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But no, Veridicus is wrong in his assessment in this case: I think it's short-sighted, arrogant and incredibly selfish that you think an overpopulated world is worth it - do you have any conception (pun not intended) of what an overpopulated world would be like? Think of the pictures you see of starving children in Africa, and extend that throughout the whole world.. some places, the US is probably one of those, may be able by force of arms and some naturally fertile regions to be able to hold off for a little bit longer, watching the rest of the world starve while fighting off attempted immigrants.

A bit more contraception will hopefully mean that I won't live to see it; maybe my children will be lucky enough not to. But while there are people like you around, I'm not that hopeful.

[Resurrexi]

[quote name='philbo' date='26 January 2010 - 07:22 PM' timestamp='1264551749' post='2045274']
A bit more contraception will hopefully mean that I won't live to see it; maybe my children will be lucky enough not to. But while there are people like you around, I'm not that hopeful.
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I hope to have at least seven kids if I get married.

[MIKolbe]

you should hope to get married, first.

srsly.

[Resurrexi]

[quote name='MIkolbe' date='26 January 2010 - 07:29 PM' timestamp='1264552175' post='2045282']
you should hope to get married, first.

srsly.
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