Pourquoi?

[KeenanParkerII]

Why are there no male lay consecrations? Ie. Poverty, chastity? I'm not inferring anything here, I'm just curious if it is because we have a duty to find wives and accumulate stuff for the family.

Discuss.

Edited February 3, 2010 by KeenanParkerII

[Hilde]

You can become a monk without becoming a priest.

[KeenanParkerII]

When I said lay, I meant to say non-living-in-a-religious-order-church-environment-but-kind-of-in-the-world-type-thing. ^__^

[Nunsense]

Males can be consecrated hermits. I don't think they can be consecrated virgins though. That is all that women have anyway. And men can be priests while women can't.

[KeenanParkerII]

Cool beans, I found an article on diocesan hermits! Though, I must admit, I'm not sure I like the sound of the word hermit..

http://doihaveavocation.com/blog/archives/89

[Nunsense]

[quote name='KeenanParkerII' date='04 February 2010 - 10:04 AM' timestamp='1265238287' post='2050771']
Cool beans, I found an article on diocesan hermits! Though, I must admit, I'm not sure I like the sound of the word hermit..

http://doihaveavocation.com/blog/archives/89
[/quote]


Father Romano of the Hermits of Bethlehem is a valuable source of info since he started his laura of hermits 30 years ago or more. You might want to go on a retreat there to get the feel for hermit life.

[KeenanParkerII]

Oh, nooo. I mean thank you, but I'm just trying to expand my Catholic knowledge. I'd like a wife at some point methinks. But if it wasn't for that I'd enter a religious order in a heartbeat.

[Hilde]

We have a hermit in the mountains here, he eats nettle soup and kills bugs with his Bible during mass.
You can be all eccentric and cool like that.
We call our non-priest brothers lay brothers.

Edited February 3, 2010 by Hilde

[KeenanParkerII]

Sweet! Do hermits get habits?

So all people in religious orders (besides priests) are called lay brothers and sisters?

[Nunsense]

[quote name='KeenanParkerII' date='04 February 2010 - 10:22 AM' timestamp='1265239359' post='2050793']
Sweet! Do hermits get habits?

So all people in religious orders (besides priests) are called lay brothers and sisters?
[/quote]

Yeah, anyone not a priest is laity, but monks and nuns are also referred to as religious, which not all laity are.

Yes, hermits can wear habits. He Hermits of Bethlem wear denim habits! They have a scapular and cowl (for the monks) and veil (for the nuns) and a white mantle (cape) for Mass.

[KeenanParkerII]

Aha, I know the difference between religious and diocesan priests. hehe, woo I know something!

[quote]Yes, hermits can wear habits. He Hermits of Bethlem wear denim habits! They have a scapular and cowl (for the monks) and veil (for the nuns) and a white mantle (cape) for Mass.[/quote]

Cool, I've never seen a denim habit before. I'm googling.. >__>

[Didacus]

Parce que...

[KeenanParkerII]

Hey now, none of that French stuff.

[vee]

[quote name='KeenanParkerII' date='04 February 2010 - 08:25 AM' timestamp='1265289900' post='2051124']
Hey now, none of that French stuff.
[/quote]


Like this?

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqH0OBSD76w&feature=related[/media]

Edited February 4, 2010 by vee8

[KeenanParkerII]

If you haven't noticed, we're Canadian, not France French. =P

And I'm not even French Canadian, I'm from the British part of Canada.

[vee]

[quote name='KeenanParkerII' date='04 February 2010 - 08:49 AM' timestamp='1265291384' post='2051129']
If you haven't noticed, we're Canadian, not France French. =P

And I'm not even French Canadian, I'm from the British part of Canada.
[/quote]

Je suis desole.

[media][url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0Y3L0s1m2o"]http://www.youtube.c...h?v=l0Y3L0s1m2o[/url][/media]

[Didacus]

[quote name='vee8' date='04 February 2010 - 08:58 AM' timestamp='1265291922' post='2051133']
Je suis desole.

[media][url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0Y3L0s1m2o"]http://www.youtube.c...h?v=l0Y3L0s1m2o[/url][/media]
[/quote]

J'en suis meme peine enormement. Que de douleur pour ma patrie!

[Sister Rose Therese]

[quote name='KeenanParkerII' date='03 February 2010 - 07:00 PM' timestamp='1265238054' post='2050769']
When I said lay, I meant to say non-living-in-a-religious-order-church-environment-but-kind-of-in-the-world-type-thing. ^__^
[/quote]


Just so you know, there are also secular third Orders, oblates, lay apostolates, and other types of consecration in the Church. They vary as to what type of commitment they make.
But my point is that there is a lot out there.

From [url="http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/ccscrlife/documents/rc_con_ccscrlife_doc_20020614_ripartire-da-cristo_en.html"]Starting Afresh from Christ[/url] "[font="Times"]Consecrated persons—monks and nuns, contemplatives, religious dedicated to the works of the apostolate, members of Secular Institutes and Societies of Apostolic life, hermits and consecrated virgins—truly deserve the gratitude of the ecclesial community."[/font]

[KeenanParkerII]

[quote]J'en suis meme peine enormement. Que de douleur pour ma patrie![/quote]

Oh le douleur!

[quote]Just so you know, there are also secular third Orders, oblates, lay apostolates, and other types of consecration in the Church. They vary as to what type of commitment they make.
But my point is that there is a lot out there.

From Starting Afresh from Christ "Consecrated persons—monks and nuns, contemplatives, religious dedicated to the works of the apostolate, members of Secular Institutes and Societies of Apostolic life, hermits and consecrated virgins—truly deserve the gratitude of the ecclesial community."[/quote]

Cools, I'm doing some snooping around on the net about these groups. There are a lot, and a lot of terminology.

[EJames2]

[quote name='KeenanParkerII' date='04 February 2010 - 01:29 PM' timestamp='1265315377' post='2051261']
Oh le douleur!



Cools, I'm doing some snooping around on the net about these groups. There are a lot, and a lot of terminology.
[/quote]

there are Male consecrated, celibates, under a Bishop..hermits living in the world, if you wish, or 'Poustiniks',.does exist, as well as Layman who make promises if Poverty, Chastity and Obedience in a Lay Community at http://madonnahouse.org/about/index.html