What Will We Look Like In Heaven?

[KeenanParkerII]

Are our bodies renewed? What about Jesus and Mary? Do you think the martyrs will retain indications of their wounds like Jesus did? I was wondering these things when looking at some artwork of the virgin Mary. Any ideas?

[Maximilianus]

I don't care what I will look like, I just hope to get there.

[Thy Geekdom Come]

There's a pious tradition out there that we will appear as we did at 33 (Christ's age at death), but glorified. If so, I have 8 years to lose some weight.

I don't think we'll ever get a definitive answer on this one, nor should we.

[Nihil Obstat]

I always assume that it will be as the perfect human. A perfected version of ourselves. Not some shallow "perfection" that society likes, but a figure that clearly represents everything about us and perfectly reflects our salvation.

Edited February 23, 2010 by Nihil Obstat

[Nihil Obstat]

Also apparently we'll emit the uncreated light of God.
[url="http://www.newliturgicalmovement.org/#6489944356034182425"]Source (page five of embedded document).[/url]

Edited February 23, 2010 by Nihil Obstat

[KeenanParkerII]

[quote]I don't care what I will look like, I just hope to get there. [/quote]

True E-nuff! But you still didn't answer the question. Interesting responses so far..

[Apotheoun]

[quote name='Raphael' date='23 February 2010 - 02:30 PM' timestamp='1266960633' post='2062089']
There's a pious tradition out there that we will appear as we did at 33 (Christ's age at death), but glorified. If so, I have 8 years to lose some weight.

I don't think we'll ever get a definitive answer on this one, nor should we.
[/quote]
It is also a pious tradition that martyrs will bear the marks of their passion in the eschaton, but that their wounds will be beautiful and that the uncreated light of grace will pour out from them.

[Winchester]

[quote name='Nihil Obstat' date='23 February 2010 - 04:33 PM' timestamp='1266960827' post='2062094']
Also apparently we'll emit the uncreated light of God.
[url="http://www.newliturgicalmovement.org/#6489944356034182425"]Source (page five of embedded document).[/url]
[/quote]
I heard LED lasts longer.

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='Winchester' date='23 February 2010 - 03:38 PM' timestamp='1266961101' post='2062099']
I heard LED lasts longer.
[/quote]
I guess it depends how many calories you take in before you die.

[Maximilianus]

[quote name='KeenanParkerII' date='23 February 2010 - 05:34 PM' timestamp='1266960882' post='2062095']
True E-nuff! But you still didn't answer the question. [/quote]
Well, if I go by the tradition Raphael mentiones I will look like I did last year...sans glasses and with a full head of hair.

[Apotheoun]

"But the love we bear to the blessed martyrs causes us, I know not how, to desire to see in the heavenly kingdom the marks of the wounds which they received for the name of Christ, and possibly we shall see them. For this will not be a deformity, but a mark of honor, and will add luster to their appearance, and a spiritual, if not a bodily beauty. And yet we need not believe that they to whom it has been said, 'Not a hair of your head shall perish,' shall, in the resurrection, want such of their members as they have been deprived of in their martyrdom. But if it will be seemly in that new kingdom to have some marks of these wounds still visible in that immortal flesh, the places where they have been wounded or mutilated shall retain the scars without any of the members being lost. While, therefore, it is quite true that no blemishes which the body has sustained shall appear in the resurrection, yet we are not to reckon or name these marks of virtue blemishes." St. Augustine, [i]City of God[/i], Book XXII, Chapter 19

[KeenanParkerII]

[quote]"But the love we bear to the blessed martyrs causes us, I know not how, to desire to see in the heavenly kingdom the marks of the wounds which they received for the name of Christ, and possibly we shall see them. For this will not be a deformity, but a mark of honor, and will add luster to their appearance, and a spiritual, if not a bodily beauty. And yet we need not believe that they to whom it has been said, 'Not a hair of your head shall perish,' shall, in the resurrection, want such of their members as they have been deprived of in their martyrdom. But if it will be seemly in that new kingdom to have some marks of these wounds still visible in that immortal flesh, the places where they have been wounded or mutilated shall retain the scars without any of the members being lost. While, therefore, it is quite true that no blemishes which the body has sustained shall appear in the resurrection, yet we are not to reckon or name these marks of virtue blemishes." St. Augustine, City of God, Book XXII, Chapter 19 [/quote]

Thank you Apo. You'll receive a +1 when it regenerates. I was very interested in that.

[laetitia crucis]

[quote name='Nihil Obstat' date='23 February 2010 - 05:32 PM' timestamp='1266960737' post='2062092']
I always assume that it will be as the perfect human. A perfected version of ourselves. Not some shallow "perfection" that society likes, but a figure that clearly represents everything about us and perfectly reflects our salvation.
[/quote]

This is basically what I learned in one of my theology classes in the convent, too. [IMG]http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy305/laetitia_crucis/Random/nunemoticon.gif[/IMG] In addition to what Raphael said about being 33, which St. Thomas Aquinas said is the perfect age.

It's going to be some exciting times. (Well, except that we'd exist outside of time I think... )

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='laetitia crucis' date='23 February 2010 - 04:04 PM' timestamp='1266962665' post='2062120']
This is basically what I learned in one of my theology classes in the convent, too. [IMG]http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy305/laetitia_crucis/Random/nunemoticon.gif[/IMG] In addition to what Raphael said about being 33, which St. Thomas Aquinas said is the perfect age.

It's going to be some exciting times. (Well, except that we'd exist outside of time I think... )
[/quote]
Is it just tradition that Jesus was 33 when He died, or do we have any documents that point that age out as being the most acceptable?

[Thy Geekdom Come]

[quote name='Apotheoun' date='23 February 2010 - 04:37 PM' timestamp='1266961030' post='2062098']
It is also a pious tradition that martyrs will bear the marks of their passion in the eschaton, but that their wounds will be beautiful and that the uncreated light of grace will pour out from them.
[/quote]
That's a beautiful one. It's more or less what I'd considered.

I think one of the most powerful thoughts I can muster is of coming before Him glorified, shining, in white robes, with hands open and palms upward in praise.

[tinytherese]

What if you die before 33?

[Thy Geekdom Come]

[quote name='Nihil Obstat' date='23 February 2010 - 05:21 PM' timestamp='1266963674' post='2062128']
Is it just tradition that Jesus was 33 when He died, or do we have any documents that point that age out as being the most acceptable?
[/quote]
Luke 3:23 - "When Jesus began his ministry he was about thirty years of age."

He served in public ministry for 3 years. 30 + 3 = 33.

I wasn't sure if it was explicit in Scripture or not until I looked it up.

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='tinytherese' date='23 February 2010 - 04:25 PM' timestamp='1266963944' post='2062132']
What if you die before 33?
[/quote]
I would imagine that your resurrected body is more of a fundamental reality than strictly a physical one. My line of thinking leads me to the idea that your physical age is sort of irrelevant. Just as God exists in an eternal moment, you could think that your perfected body is sort of timeless in that it's not really confined to a chronological point.


Geez, it's so hard writing things like that in a coherent way!

[Lilllabettt]

In Heaven I'll have my amputated parts back and they will all behave properly

In addition to which I won't have chicken pox scars

Yay.

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='Raphael' date='23 February 2010 - 04:29 PM' timestamp='1266964159' post='2062134']
Luke 3:23 - "When Jesus began his ministry he was about thirty years of age."

He served in public ministry for 3 years. 30 + 3 = 33.

I wasn't sure if it was explicit in Scripture or not until I looked it up.
[/quote]
Ah, perfect. Thanks!