Even Catholic Schools Must Teach Sex Ed To 6 Yr Olds

[Lil Red]

+JMJ+
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/100421/national/sex_ed_5
TORONTO - Ontario's Catholic schools can't opt out of a revamped sex ed curriculum even if it goes against their religious beliefs to teach kids about masturbation and homosexuality, Premier Dalton McGuinty said Wednesday.

Several conservative and religious groups claim the changes coming this fall will corrupt young minds with "explicit" topics like anal sex. But Ontario's Catholic premier made it clear that all public schools must teach the lessons that will start as early as age six.

"They're part of the publicly funded school system here in Ontario and this is part of our curriculum," McGuinty said.

"If parents are uncomfortable with certain aspects of this new curriculum, they can and they are free to withdraw their children from the classroom."

The first changes to Ontario's curriculum in a dozen years will see students learning about masturbation in Grade 6 and oral and anal sex at age 12.

Opponents who are mounting a campaign to get rid of the program have described the curriculum as "evil" and "bordering on criminal." They say teaching eight-year-olds about gender identity and same-sex marriage is inappropriate and should be left up to parents.

But McGuinty - whose wife is a Catholic school teacher - said it's a responsible way to teach kids about sex in an age where it's easy to access information, whether it's from their friends or the Internet. He argues that by including it in the curriculum, the government has some control over the information and can present it in an appropriate way.

Education Minister Leona Dombrowsky, a former Catholic school board trustee, noted that Ontario's Catholic bishops have endorsed the changes. But she wouldn't say whether schools will lose funding if they refuse to teach the new lessons.

"We do expect that schools will work with parents, and if parents would say that there is part of the curriculum that they do not want their child to receive, then they have the right to make that choice and work with the classroom teacher to accommodate that," she said.

As the mother of four grown children, it was important to her that they had the "best and correct information on any and every issue," Dombrowsky said.

"I think the reality is today that children are exposed to a wide range of mediums, more so than when our children were small," she added. "We did not have the Internet when our children were small."

Under the changes that were quietly released in January, Grade 1 kids will be taught to identify genitalia - among other body parts - using the correct word, such as penis, vagina and testicle. The 1998 curriculum made no mention of genitalia.

Grade 3 lessons about the differences that make each person unique will now also include discussion about same-sex families and students with special needs to "reflect the government commitment to equity and inclusive education," according to provincial officials.

In Grade 5, kids will be taught to identify parts of the reproductive system and describe how the body changes during puberty. In Grade 7, they're taught how to prevent unintended pregnancy and sexually transmitted infections, including HIV.

The Opposition Conservatives say McGuinty deliberately kept the new curriculum under wraps, knowing it would be an explosive issue for many parents.

"I mean, Dalton McGuinty does a press release when he has a good hair day," said Tory Leader Tim Hudak, who has a two-year-old daughter.

"They do press releases about everything under the sun, but somehow these fundamental changes to the sex education curriculum - that will see kids as young as six years old getting sex ed - they simply tried to slip by everybody."

The changes "don't sit right" with the vast majority of Ontario parents and McGuinty should hold off on the changes until he gets more feedback from them, Hudak said.

But McGuinty and Dombrowsky insist parents and experts had their say during the two-year consultation process.

Not everyone opposes the changes, said New Democrat Cheri DiNovo, a former United Church minister.

"The gift of sexuality and the gift of body parts from God is a gift," she said. "It's a gift all children need to learn about; we all need to learn about."

The Assembly of Catholic Bishops of Ontario and James Ryan, president of the Ontario English Catholic Teachers' Association were not immediately available for comment about the new curriculum.

[zunshynn]

Things like this make me afraid of having children.

[God Conquers]

Guaranteed no one but libs had any say in the consultation process.

McGuinty sold out his faith years ago so this isn't surprising at all.

[Brother Adam]

This is completely disgusting and embarrassing. Sex education should never be taught in a classroom, but at home, by parents.

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Edited April 22, 2010 by Brother Adam

[Resurrexi]

I think it might be time for the Catholic bishops in Canada to consider not accepting funding from the state. If they did not accept state funding, one would think that they would not be bound by any immoral state standards.

[zunshynn]

[quote name='Resurrexi' date='21 April 2010 - 06:11 PM' timestamp='1271895082' post='2097625']
I think it might be time for the Catholic bishops in Canada to consider not accepting funding from the state. If they did not accept state funding, one would think that they would not be bound by any immoral state standards.
[/quote]

One would think. Pretty soon I doubt it will matter if you accept funding. Next thing you know parents will be put in jail for not sending their children to public schools.

Edited April 22, 2010 by zunshynn

[Apotheoun]

[quote name='zunshynn' date='21 April 2010 - 06:14 PM' timestamp='1271895291' post='2097628']
Pretty soon I doubt it will matter if you accept funding. Next thing you know parents will be put in jail for not sending their children to public schools.
[/quote]
I agree.

[SaintOfVirtue]

[quote name='Resurrexi' date='21 April 2010 - 05:11 PM' timestamp='1271895082' post='2097625']
I think it might be time for the Catholic bishops in Canada to consider not accepting funding from the state. If they did not accept state funding, one would think that they would not be bound by any immoral state standards.
[/quote]

Fr. Corapi gave up his tax exempt status years ago saying, "They won't tell me what to say!"

I think all churches should follow suit where necessary, and it certainly coming to that point in America. As the Bishop of the California diocese of Fresno put it, "They say we can't impose our religious believes on them, but they are certainly imposing their secular beliefs on us."

Edited April 22, 2010 by SaintOfVirtue

[HisChildForever]

[quote name='zunshynn' date='21 April 2010 - 08:14 PM' timestamp='1271895291' post='2097628']
Next thing you know parents will be put in jail for not sending their children to public schools.
[/quote]

LOL wut.

[Winchester]

Violent revolution: Now justifiable in Canada.

[add]

homeschool homeschool homeschool

[God Conquers]

[quote name='Resurrexi' date='21 April 2010 - 08:11 PM' timestamp='1271895082' post='2097625']
I think it might be time for the Catholic bishops in Canada to consider not accepting funding from the state. If they did not accept state funding, one would think that they would not be bound by any immoral state standards.
[/quote]

Will never happen.

What will happen, probably within 5-10 years, is the Province taking over the schools entirely. There is very little difference in the students of a Public Catholic and Public Public school these days. Most people know it and are campaigning against funding.

Also... no other religion is allowed public funding in Ontario. It is a very weird situation.

In the 70s there was an ENORMOUS grassroots campaign to get public funding. We won and it ruined the system. Deal with the devil.

[Brother Adam]

[quote name='HisChildForever' date='21 April 2010 - 09:28 PM' timestamp='1271896096' post='2097643']
LOL wut.
[/quote]

It's not as far away as you might think. At all.

[ardillacid]

Yay canada.

[Vincent Vega]

[quote name='Brother Adam' date='21 April 2010 - 09:24 PM' timestamp='1271899482' post='2097675']
It's not as far away as you might think. At all.
[/quote]
I bet it is.

[zunshynn]

[quote name='USAirwaysIHS' date='21 April 2010 - 08:57 PM' timestamp='1271905042' post='2097714']
I bet it is.
[/quote]

Rather than waste your time betting it's far away, I'd be praying that it is far away.

There are already states that have basically outlawed homeschooling. Don't kid yourselves. It is so not an impossibility.

Edited April 22, 2010 by zunshynn

[Marie-Therese]

Man, things have changed so much during my lifetime. I went to first grade to a small public school (which is actually the same school system my daughter now attends) and I can remember that we were taught to recite Psalm 100 and Psalm 23 from memory. We recited them along with the Pledge of Allegiance every morning and at all school assemblies. I can remember very vividly my first grade math teacher saying, when questioned by one of the students about us not being able to pray in school, "We will stop saying the Psalms when they come in here with guns and make us." And this was in the very early 80s when prayer in schools was a VERY hot-button issue.

As a matter of fact, I still recite Psalm 100 at the Invitatory of the Office instead of Psalm 95 because I know it by heart.

[Vincent Vega]

[quote name='zunshynn' date='21 April 2010 - 11:00 PM' timestamp='1271905233' post='2097718']It is so not an impossibility.
[/quote]
Neither is Obama not having a US birth certificate, but I'm not holding my breath on that one either.

[add]

[quote name='Lil Red' date='21 April 2010 - 08:57 PM' timestamp='1271894260' post='2097615']
+JMJ+

The Assembly of Catholic Bishops of Ontario and James Ryan, president of the Ontario English Catholic Teachers' Association were not immediately available for comment about the new curriculum.
[/quote]

i would bet that the mothers of them 6 Yr Olds might not be so silent

[Sternhauser]

Step up, Bishops.

~Sternhauser