Even Catholic Schools Must Teach Sex Ed To 6 Yr Olds

[Resurrexi]

[quote name='fidei defensor' date='22 April 2010 - 05:24 PM' timestamp='1271975046' post='2098238']
Fearing knowledge is silly. Repressing it is a great way to control the masses.
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Spreading false knowledge is an equally successful way to control the masses.

[Fidei Defensor]

[quote name='Resurrexi' date='22 April 2010 - 04:35 PM' timestamp='1271975708' post='2098244']
Spreading false knowledge is an equally successful way to control the masses.
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Oh, i'm sorry. What is it you call that thing between your legs? I would hate to teach the kids that it's called a penis.

[Didacus]

[quote name='Resurrexi' date='21 April 2010 - 08:11 PM' timestamp='1271895082' post='2097625']
I think it might be time for the Catholic bishops in Canada to consider not accepting funding from the state. If they did not accept state funding, one would think that they would not be bound by any immoral state standards.
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The government would simply find another way of forcing their agenda and preferences upon Catholic children.


Besides, [quote]Education Minister Leona Dombrowsky, a former Catholic school board trustee, noted that Ontario's Catholic bishops have endorsed the changes. But she wouldn't say whether schools will lose funding if they refuse to teach the new lessons.[/quote], if the bishops endorse it?!

Does anyone know if this is correct and acurate, that the bishops endorsed the curriculum?

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[quote name='cmotherofpirl' date='22 April 2010 - 12:39 PM' timestamp='1271950749' post='2098018']
Kids should know their body parts by age 3, and most know about masturbation by then as well. By grade 3 if they have watched any TV sadly they know not all families are made up of the normal arrangement. Many kids are in puberty by grade 5, and a few pregnant by grade 7. Nobody needs to ever hear the term anal sex as far as I'm concerned, but they will. All this stuff should be explained in the home by the parents, not in school, but sadly most parents fail to live up to their responsibilities and this is the result. Since this is a CATHOLIC school system, I expect the school to explain in every presentation that human sexuality is a gift from God and this stuff is wrong and sinful and why.
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not in my house, by age 3, and most know about masturbation or the term anal sex, if they have watched any TV
the TV set is monitored, no filth permitted. the movies are rated G, family pictures. you can call me a prude, i guess I am
unless the child is retarded, i see no need to allow such thoughts for children.

[cmotherofpirl]

[cmotherofpirl, on 22 April 2010 - 12:39 PM, said:

Kids should know their body parts by age 3, and most know about masturbation by then as well. By grade 3 if they have watched any TV sadly they know not all families are made up of the normal arrangement. Many kids are in puberty by grade 5, and a few pregnant by grade 7. Nobody needs to ever hear the term anal sex as far as I'm concerned, but they will. All this stuff should be explained in the home by the parents, not in school, but sadly most parents fail to live up to their responsibilities and this is the result. Since this is a CATHOLIC school system, I expect the school to explain in every presentation that human sexuality is a gift from God and this stuff is wrong and sinful and why.]

[appparently said:
not in my house, by age 3, and most know about masturbation or the term anal sex, if they have watched any TV
the TV set is monitored, no filth permitted. the movies are rated G, family pictures. you can call me a prude, i guess I am
unless the child is retarded, i see no need to allow such thoughts for children]

So you think children should not know the names of their own body parts? Do you think we honor our bodys [ the Creation of God] by telling them they have a pee-pee? Do you really think toddlers have never discovered their genitalia once they are out of diapers?
Unless your children were never out of the house and locked up 24/7 and never had another conversation with another teenager ever, they do learn about these things whether you like it or not. Its better they learn of these things in the context of their family but considering how incapable most parents are in talking about sexuality, I prefer they learn it in a catholic school setting than from their ignorant friends. There is a difference between burying your head in the sand and pretending this stuff doesn't exist and explaining it in a preemptive way in the proper religious and moral context.

[tinytherese]

In my Catholic elementary school, we were taught about the anatomy and physiology of our sexual organs from a scientific point of view and the development of babies in the womb, but not in the traditional "sex. ed." kind of way that we often hear about in middle school and high schools. Our teachers told us that it was something meant to happen in the context of marriage. These units were very short and only a small part of the session that we were in. I don't remember what the name of it was, but it really was more like a guidance class as in how to get along with people. (I mean like everyone is special, make good friends and choices, problem solving, saying no to peer pressure, not lying, and doing good simple habits.) The part about private parts was only a small piece of the short class. They told us to get our giggles out of the way and then we moved on.

[ardillacid]

Funny how J_lol never posts in any thread in which Canada is portrayed in a negative light.

[God Conquers]

[quote name='apparently' date='22 April 2010 - 07:49 PM' timestamp='1271980184' post='2098277']
not in my house, by age 3, and most know about masturbation or the term anal sex, if they have watched any TV
the TV set is monitored, no filth permitted. the movies are rated G, family pictures. you can call me a prude, i guess I am
unless the child is retarded, i see no need to allow such thoughts for children.

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Unless the child is retarded? What!?

[God Conquers]

Oh, and also they withdrew the curriculum.

They'll let the controversy die down, pretend they made changes, then put it back in.

beaver dam you McGuinty!!!!!!

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[quote name='God Conquers' date='23 April 2010 - 04:42 AM' timestamp='1272008520' post='2098425']
Unless the child is retarded? What!?
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i mean a normal (intelligence) child can understand his or her anatomy and/or where babies come from without classroom instruction.

Edited April 23, 2010 by apparently

[God Conquers]

[quote name='apparently' date='23 April 2010 - 07:26 AM' timestamp='1272021990' post='2098476']
i mean a normal (intelligence) child can understand his or her anatomy and/or where babies come from without classroom instruction.
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oh man... I couldn't really figure out what you were saying without the punctuation... or capital letters.

[cmotherofpirl]

[quote name='apparently' date='23 April 2010 - 08:26 AM' timestamp='1272021990' post='2098476']
i mean a normal (intelligence) child can understand his or her anatomy and/or where babies come from without classroom instruction.
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This is simply not true. Your response is exactly why children need it taught in catholic school.
Children have a right to know how their body works without guessing or being misinformed by other chilren whose parents have failed in their responsibility as educators.

[add]

teaching my kids porno is not my idea of parenting. It might be a better idea to be teaching them the Rosary in school.

[add]

[quote name='cmotherofpirl' date='23 April 2010 - 04:43 PM' timestamp='1272051796' post='2098707']
This is simply not true. Your response is exactly why children need it taught in catholic school.
Children have a right to know how their body works without guessing or being misinformed by other chilren whose parents have failed in their responsibility as educators.
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maybe you should ban families, altogether

[zunshynn]

[quote name='apparently' date='23 April 2010 - 02:15 PM' timestamp='1272053758' post='2098735']
teaching my kids porno is not my idea of parenting. It might be a better idea to be teaching them the Rosary in school.
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CMom is not talking about teaching kids porno. Teaching a child what their body parts are called in a way that demonstrates the God-given dignity of the body is not pornographic or lascivious.

[Brother Adam]

[quote name='apparently' date='22 April 2010 - 08:49 PM' timestamp='1271980184' post='2098277']
not in my house, by age 3, and most know about masturbation or the term anal sex, if they have watched any TV
the TV set is monitored, no filth permitted. the movies are rated G, family pictures. you can call me a prude, i guess I am
unless the child is retarded, i see no need to allow such thoughts for children.

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God bless good Catholic parents who don't see any reason to teach children about sex in either a mechanical or crude way, but in a loving and sacred way. That is why I posted the title to the book "The Loving Mysteries of Life" when I did. It is an excellent way to teach children about family without having to ignite the passions that so many Catholic schools do. Even most Catholics fail to understand what they are doing to their children when they think they have to tell them everything "first" before others do.

Teaching sexuality belongs in the home, not in the school. Schools should equip parents with the resources and knowledge they need.

[God Conquers]

Wait until the right time.

Take your child out of school if you don't think it is time for them to learn, or trust the way that the system is teaching them.

It will not harm your kids socially, I"m speaking from experience.

Give your children the tools they need to understand the true meaning of human sexuality and later, to defend their sanctity and that of their friends and relationships in this area.

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[quote name='Brother Adam' date='23 April 2010 - 05:53 PM' timestamp='1272055997' post='2098750']
God bless good Catholic parents who don't see any reason to teach children about sex in either a mechanical or crude way, but in a loving and sacred way. That is why I posted the title to the book "The Loving Mysteries of Life" when I did. It is an excellent way to teach children about family without having to ignite the passions that so many Catholic schools do. Even most Catholics fail to understand what they are doing to their children when they think they have to tell them everything "first" before others do.

Teaching sexuality belongs in the home, not in the school. Schools should equip parents with the resources and knowledge they need.
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the voice of reason, thank you

the indoctrination given by my parents in the catholic faith and sanctity of holy marriage is all the resources and knowledge needed to Teach "The Loving Mysteries of Life"to our children.

Edited April 23, 2010 by apparently

[Brother Adam]

[quote name='apparently' date='23 April 2010 - 06:31 PM' timestamp='1272058272' post='2098775']
the voice of reason, thank you

the indoctrination given by my parents in the catholic faith and sanctity of holy marriage is all the resources and knowledge needed to Teach "The Loving Mysteries of Life"to our children.
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That is a wonderful testimony and I can only hope to be able to do the same and model myself so appropriately after St. Joseph.

We have been discussing this at length at our parish recently. I can certainly appreciate the position that many Catholic students do not have parents that live according to the Gospel or hand on the faith to their children as they should. I just can't believe it is the schools responsibility to replace the role of the parents, but to begin converting, educating, and equipping them with the holy Catholic faith. We should not accept the state of our schools as a whole with a sigh of contentment and simply prepare a defense as best we can, but march with the banner of faith on the offense against its secularism and over sexualization. It is possible to raise pure, chaste, and holy children today, even in the schools, I see it done here, and it is beautiful.

[add]

my mom (God rest her soul) taught me by example, she did not believe in public (non-family) sex-ed, rather Catholic-ed by attended mass, catholic schooling and by virtue

Edited April 23, 2010 by apparently