Jaime Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 I've always taken pride in the fact that I've been a role model to my nephews and other young men. Whether I've wanted to or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fides' Jack Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 [quote name='hot stuff' date='19 July 2010 - 09:27 PM' timestamp='1279592851' post='2145276'] I've always taken pride in the fact that I've been a role model to my nephews and other young men. Whether I've wanted to or not [/quote] Wow. No self-esteem issues here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominicansoul Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 [quote name='HisChildForever' date='19 July 2010 - 10:26 PM' timestamp='1279592779' post='2145274'] Like I said. [/quote] i'm sorry it bothers you so much... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaime Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 [quote name='fides' Jack' date='19 July 2010 - 10:30 PM' timestamp='1279593037' post='2145279'] Wow. No self-esteem issues here... [/quote] Shouldn't a man take pride in being an example to the young men in his life? I don't see that as a bad thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fides' Jack Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 [quote name='hot stuff' date='19 July 2010 - 09:33 PM' timestamp='1279593211' post='2145283'] Shouldn't a man take pride in being an example to the young men in his life? I don't see that as a bad thing [/quote] Honestly, I don't know. I'm always afraid when I hear people talking about pride in themselves, because I grew up hearing that pride is the source or root of all sin. Maybe there is such a thing as healthy pride - I'm not knowledgeable enough to say. Your post just made me laugh. I wasn't trying to start anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaime Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 [quote name='fides' Jack' date='19 July 2010 - 10:36 PM' timestamp='1279593393' post='2145285'] Honestly, I don't know. I'm always afraid when I hear people talking about pride in themselves, because I grew up hearing that pride is the source or root of all sin. Maybe there is such a thing as healthy pride - I'm not knowledgeable enough to say. Your post just made me laugh. I wasn't trying to start anything. [/quote] I didn't take it bad. I just think that Catherine is right. There are too few good role models for young men. I spent 10 years working as a youth minister and I took being a role model very seriously. There were several young men that were in my program who didn't have any men in their lives and consequently spent a lot of time at the church. I'm still in contact with some of them now that their grown and have children of their own. They will still mention how their time at church was pivotal in their development. Nowadays I still try to be an example to my nephews and the young men at our church. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePenciledOne Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 (edited) So, I read these and felt they needed to be added to or whatever, hope I added something here. 2. Find saints that you relate to and ask them to pray for you as youimitate their virtues. Some awesome real men include St. Joseph, St.Augustine, St. Maximilian Kolbe, Blessed Pier Giorgio Frassati, and St.Josemara Escriva. [b]King David and Johnathan is another one to look to.[/b] 4. Read the Bible. Be open to Gods Word. Let it convict you to courageously do the hard and holy things. [b]Pray the rosary often, cause Mother Mary can intercede for your bride as well. [/b] 6. Be a man of integrity. Do everything as if someone were watching,because God is watching. Prepare now to someday lead a family. Workhard to prepare yourself to provide for and protect them, not onlyfinancially and physically, but also spiritually, morally, andemotionally. [b]But don't beat yourself up if you fall, cause there is always a new day tomorrow.[/b] 8. Say a prayer when you see a woman dressed immodestly (for the sakeof the woman). Pope John Paul II said, [God] has assigned as a duty toevery man the dignity of every woman.[b] Or at least avert your eyes and go to her face and you can either pray as said, or show her the light of Christ and treat her the same as every other girl, (with respect).[/b] 9. Say a prayer when you see a woman dressed immodestly (for yourpurity's sake). Use this moment, when Satan wants to pull you away fromJesus, to draw closer than ever to God. [b]Look above.[/b] 15. Trust in God's mercy. When you fall, go to confession. Receivestrength from Christ truly present in the Eucharist. Blessed PierGiorgio Frassati said, "With all the strength of my soul I urge youyoung people to approach the Communion table as often as you can." Feedon this bread of angels whence you will draw all the energy you need tofight inner battles. Because true happiness, dear friends, does notconsist in the pleasures of the world or in earthly things, but inpeace of conscience, which we have only if we are pure in heart andmind. [b]Amen.[/b] 16. Don't settle for counterfeits such as pornography or masturbation(in fact, avoid them like the plagues they are) if you want to somedayenjoy the utterly amazing gift of sex as God intended. [b] Look and talk to other guys that also struggle with it and receive advice and just come close to God when you do struggle.[/b] 18. Recognize Mary as your Mother and say a prayer to consecrate yourheart to her. Her prayers for you will be very powerful in helping youdraw near to her Son. [b]St. Louis De Monfort!!![/b] 19. Lay down your life in the little things; practice making smallsacrifices by putting someone elses wants or needs before your own. [b] Serve others and make yourself for others, always die to yourself a little every day.[/b] 20. Make Jesus Christ your best friend and greatest role model. J.R.R.Tolkien, in a letter to his son, wrote, "Out of the darkness of mylife, so much frustrated, I put before you the one great thing to loveon earth: the Blessed Sacrament. There you will find romance, glory,honor, fidelity, and the true way of all your loves upon earth whichevery man's heart desires." [b]Win.[/b] Edited July 20, 2010 by ThePenciledOne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihil Obstat Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 I love how the women's thread has like..... seven replies, the the men's thread has four pages of sandwich jokes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIKolbe Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 eh.. i guess i am whipped or domesticated or whatever.. I enjoy cooking, and even if I didn't; I would still share in the responsibilites in the actual food prep/cooking (even if it was making sammiches for the fam for lunch on Saturday). If I wasn't good at it, I would learn to be better. My wife and I take turns cooking. Whoever cooks, the other does the dishes; we just found that to be the most fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted July 20, 2010 Author Share Posted July 20, 2010 [quote name='HisChildForever' date='19 July 2010 - 07:08 PM' timestamp='1279591718' post='2145244'] Why do you speak to me as if I am purposefully trying to upset you? [/quote] in all honesty, it seems like every thread that talks about men's roles or women's roles, you can get a tad upset and ummm, ticked off about what you perceive to be an injustice. can you blame slappo for taking your comments in a hurtful manner and responding in like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sojourner Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 [quote name='HisChildForever' date='19 July 2010 - 08:01 PM' timestamp='1279591277' post='2145235'] If one spouse is home, and the other spouse is at work, it is more practical that the spouse at home prepare the meal (assuming he or she does not work at home). If the situation is somehow "complicated" then a simple correction or explanation is all that is required; not an "edited for charity" remark that does nothing to facilitate a discussion, rather it increases tension. Pax. [/quote] If you want to facilitate discussion, perhaps it would help to try to anticipate how someone will read what you post. Unless you're being less than forthcoming in what you've said, you sound like you're really trying to understand how a marriage relationship like this would work. Perhaps prefacing with that would help cushion the questions you ask later, and make them sound less like you're accusing Slappo of being a lazy mooch off his hard-working wife. I can tell you from my perspective that "practical" has different meanings in every marriage. In our house, the kitchen is my domain, and I honestly dislike when other people do things in it. For one, they don't know my system, where things go, etc. Even if I'm not home to cook dinner, in the long run it is far more practical for me to cook it when I do get home than for my husband to start it and mess up my system. Plus, he really hates to cook. And because he hates to cook, it is my absolute pleasure to do it for him. He does plenty of things that I hate to do, like clean up dog poo. I have long ago accepted that my husband and I will never be that cutsie couple cooking together in the kitchen. For one, I am too set in my ways, and for two, he hates it. There are plenty of chores to go around, imo, and he works hard in other ways to make our household run smoothly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted July 20, 2010 Author Share Posted July 20, 2010 [quote name='Terra Firma' date='20 July 2010 - 08:33 AM' timestamp='1279639998' post='2145432'] If you want to facilitate discussion, perhaps it would help to try to anticipate how someone will read what you post. Unless you're being less than forthcoming in what you've said, you sound like you're really trying to understand how a marriage relationship like this would work. Perhaps prefacing with that would help cushion the questions you ask later, and make them sound less like you're accusing Slappo of being a lazy mooch off his hard-working wife. I can tell you from my perspective that "practical" has different meanings in every marriage. In our house, the kitchen is my domain, and I honestly dislike when other people do things in it. For one, they don't know my system, where things go, etc. Even if I'm not home to cook dinner, in the long run it is far more practical for me to cook it when I do get home than for my husband to start it and mess up my system. Plus, he really hates to cook. And because he hates to cook, it is my absolute pleasure to do it for him. He does plenty of things that I hate to do, like clean up dog poo. I have long ago accepted that my husband and I will never be that cutsie couple cooking together in the kitchen. For one, I am too set in my ways, and for two, he hates it. There are plenty of chores to go around, imo, and he works hard in other ways to make our household run smoothly. [/quote] same with me and laundry - though he's been having to help a lot lately in that regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sojourner Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Yeah, I do all the laundry too. Haha. My husband used to make up "clothes bundles." He'd do laundry, the put together complete outfits and roll them up then stack them in his closet. That system really didn't work for me ... At this point in our lives, I'm a stay-at-home-mom who's taking care of a baby and a sick husband. He has been working full-time all through treatment, and that's really all he can do. When and if I start working, when he's better, we'll have to renegotiate the housework chores, but for the time being they are all mine. It's a very 1950s relationship ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisChildForever Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 [quote name='Lil Red' date='20 July 2010 - 11:16 AM' timestamp='1279638994' post='2145425'] in all honesty, it seems like every thread that talks about men's roles or women's roles, you can get a tad upset and ummm, ticked off about what you perceive to be an injustice. can you blame slappo for taking your comments in a hurtful manner and responding in like? [/quote] Fair enough, but after assuring him that I meant no offense - which I did a few times, he continued to speak to me as if I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaime Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 [quote name='HisChildForever' date='20 July 2010 - 01:10 PM' timestamp='1279645824' post='2145477'] Fair enough, but after assuring him that I meant no offense - which I did a few times, he continued to speak to me as if I did. [/quote] Perhaps you could move on to other aspects of Red's post then and get things back on track? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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