Fox Failed To Mention Co-Owner Is One They Accuse Of 'terror Fundi

[Fidei Defensor]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/23/stewart-fox-prince-alwaleed_n_692234.html

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-august-23-2010/the-parent-company-trap

Edited August 24, 2010 by fidei defensor

[dominicansoul]

The irony!!!


...it serves them right...when you play this dangerous game of wanting the Constitution to work only for the people you like, it's gonna wind up biting you in the rump...

[SaintOfVirtue]

Wow, you people actually believe the Huffington Post and a comedian?

[Jesus_lol]

I would believe Jon Stewart over any of the guys over at Fox News. he has far less bias, isnt afraid to admit fault and tends to have a better handle on things.




Court jesters werent just kept around because they were funny, they also had a habit of pointing out uncomfortable truths to people who needed to hear them.

[Fidei Defensor]

[quote name='SaintOfVirtue' timestamp='1282799351' post='2163379']
Wow, you people actually believe the Huffington Post and a comedian?
[/quote]
Do you dispute any of what he said or are you just assuming that because of the source, it's untrue? None of what he pointed out was false.

[MIKolbe]

must-stay-away....ritualistically-impure-sources....

[SaintOfVirtue]

[quote name='Jesus_lol' timestamp='1282802732' post='2163398']
Court jesters werent just kept around because they were funny, they also had a habit of pointing out uncomfortable truths to people who needed to hear them.
[/quote]

If they tried to correct the Kings policies I'm pretty sure he'd say something like, "OFF WITH HIS HEAD!!" So jesters still only told political jokes that amused their King.


[quote name='MIkolbe' timestamp='1282826950' post='2163450']
must-stay-away....ritualistically-impure-sources....
[/quote]

+1

[MIKolbe]

thanks for the +1, but I was kinda clownin' on you. (lovingly, tho)

I think it is silly that because info came from "here", it is not valid.

[dominicansoul]

why are people offended that FOX news makes mistakes? They are not perfect. I think people put too much emphasis on the "orthodoxy" and "conservatism" of certain media outlets. The media is not to be trusted. period.

we're never gonna be given all the facts. Lotz of propaganda...but not the facts...

[sixpence]

Hilarious....

[url="http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/351569/august-24-2010/terror-bunker-5200?xrs=synd_facebook"]http://www.colbertna...s=synd_facebook[/url]

Of course this is a comedy show, with no responsibility to be accurate (stewart and colbert both say this openly, i've seen them in person)
but still hilarious

edit:typo

Edited August 26, 2010 by sixpence

[Socrates]

[quote name='Jesus_lol' timestamp='1282802732' post='2163398']
I would believe Jon Stewart over any of the guys over at Fox News. he has far less bias, isnt afraid to admit fault and tends to have a better handle on things.




Court jesters werent just kept around because they were funny, they also had a habit of pointing out uncomfortable truths to people who needed to hear them.
[/quote]
Oh, indeed?

Liberal comedians like Jon Stewart (whom it seems you get most of your political "wisdom" from) are hardly unbiased court jesters interested only in making people laugh and telling "uncomfortable truths."

They are every bit as politically-driven and partisan as Rush Limbaugh and the other right-wing pundits that the bleeding hearts love to hate.

I remember reading a good article about how comedy entertainment actually is a powerful and often overlooked influence on the political views of the American public. Many comedians have a strong left-wing bias, which is reflected in their comedy. I think audiences actually allow themselves unwittingly to be subtly influenced more by comedians, because they let their guard down more when they see the show as being mostly entertainment, and the comedians tell jokes and make them laugh, and many are fooled into seeing them as merely "court jesters" telling "uncomfortable truths."

Things may have changed since then, and I admit I don't usually watch tv, but the article noted how shows like SNL were remarkably timid in spoofing Obama, compared with past presidents, and when they did Obama sketches, he was treated largely as a straight man, and the laughs were at the expense of those who oppose him.

It seems that since Obama and liberal Democrats control the presidency and both houses of Congress, the Left, which previously liked to pose as rebels fearlessly standing up for truth against an oppressive government, now direct all their ire and mockery against anyone who dare oppose the current regime (Oh, those awful people in the right-wing media!).

The "court jesters" are now nothing but loyal toadies of their current king, whom they will dare not speak many "uncomfortable truths" about.

[MIKolbe]

[quote name='Socrates' timestamp='1282844988' post='2163567']
The "court jesters" are now nothing but loyal toadies of their current king, whom they will dare not speak many "uncomfortable truths" about.
[/quote]

[media]http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-june-15-2010/respect-my-authoritah[/media]

[sixpence]

[quote name='MIkolbe' timestamp='1282847288' post='2163588']
[media]http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-june-15-2010/respect-my-authoritah[/media]
[/quote]

[Socrates]

[quote name='MIkolbe' timestamp='1282847288' post='2163588']
[media]http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-june-15-2010/respect-my-authoritah[/media]
[/quote]
That was actually pretty funny.

But Obama's not Frodo, he's Gollum.

[MIKolbe]

i didn't watch LOTR, the nerds got all the tickets.

[Winchester]

Who is "Fox"?

[sixpence]

repeat post FAIL

Edited August 26, 2010 by sixpence

[Jesus_lol]

[quote name='Socrates' timestamp='1282844988' post='2163567']
Oh, indeed?

Liberal comedians like Jon Stewart (whom it seems you get most of your political "wisdom" from) are hardly unbiased court jesters interested only in making people laugh and telling "uncomfortable truths."

They are every bit as politically-driven and partisan as Rush Limbaugh and the other right-wing pundits that the bleeding hearts love to hate.

I remember reading a good article about how comedy entertainment actually is a powerful and often overlooked influence on the political views of the American public. Many comedians have a strong left-wing bias, which is reflected in their comedy. I think audiences actually allow themselves unwittingly to be subtly influenced more by comedians, because they let their guard down more when they see the show as being mostly entertainment, and the comedians tell jokes and make them laugh, and many are fooled into seeing them as merely "court jesters" telling "uncomfortable truths."

Things may have changed since then, and I admit I don't usually watch tv, but the article noted how shows like SNL were remarkably timid in spoofing Obama, compared with past presidents, and when they did Obama sketches, he was treated largely as a straight man, and the laughs were at the expense of those who oppose him.

It seems that since Obama and liberal Democrats control the presidency and both houses of Congress, the Left, which previously liked to pose as rebels fearlessly standing up for truth against an oppressive government, now direct all their ire and mockery against anyone who dare oppose the current regime (Oh, those awful people in the right-wing media!).

The "court jesters" are now nothing but loyal toadies of their current king, whom they will dare not speak many "uncomfortable truths" about.
[/quote]

I dont think you have watched much of The Daily Show recently. He spends about half his time making fun of Obama and the liberals. Heck, a few days ago he issued an apology for his coverage of something years ago and agreed with Charlton Heston's speech to the NRA. yup, sounds like a leftist wacko.

[Jesus_lol]

[quote name='MIkolbe' timestamp='1282847288' post='2163588']
[media]http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-june-15-2010/respect-my-authoritah[/media]
[/quote]

I wish i could watch that, but the canadian site doesnt archive that far back.

[sixpence]

[quote name='Socrates' timestamp='1282844988' post='2163567']
Oh, indeed?

Liberal comedians like Jon Stewart (whom it seems you get most of your political "wisdom" from) are hardly unbiased court jesters interested only in making people laugh and telling "uncomfortable truths."

They are every bit as politically-driven and partisan as Rush Limbaugh and the other right-wing pundits that the bleeding hearts love to hate.

I remember reading a good article about how comedy entertainment actually is a powerful and often overlooked influence on the political views of the American public. Many comedians have a strong left-wing bias, which is reflected in their comedy. I think audiences actually allow themselves unwittingly to be subtly influenced more by comedians, because they let their guard down more when they see the show as being mostly entertainment, and the comedians tell jokes and make them laugh, and many are fooled into seeing them as merely "court jesters" telling "uncomfortable truths."

Things may have changed since then, and I admit I don't usually watch tv, but the article noted how shows like SNL were remarkably timid in spoofing Obama, compared with past presidents, and when they did Obama sketches, he was treated largely as a straight man, and the laughs were at the expense of those who oppose him.

It seems that since Obama and liberal Democrats control the presidency and both houses of Congress, the Left, which previously liked to pose as rebels fearlessly standing up for truth against an oppressive government, now direct all their ire and mockery against anyone who dare oppose the current regime (Oh, those awful people in the right-wing media!).

The "court jesters" are now nothing but loyal toadies of their current king, whom they will dare not speak many "uncomfortable truths" about.
[/quote]

Both shows make fun of anything ridiculous either party does, and yes they are biased toward the liberal side of things sometimes, but they are just trying to get as many viewers as possible. Out of character, both fully admit that their show is not meant as "news" or even on the border of news and comedy. It is not their fault that if people take what they say unquestioningly or if there is no countering comedic "conservative show".

edit: o wait... i forget about rush limbaugh... i guess its even

Edited August 26, 2010 by sixpence