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[quote name='Socrates' timestamp='1282844988' post='2163567']
Oh, indeed?

Liberal comedians like Jon Stewart (whom it seems you get most of your political "wisdom" from) are hardly unbiased court jesters interested only in making people laugh and telling "uncomfortable truths."

They are every bit as politically-driven and partisan as Rush Limbaugh and the other right-wing pundits that the bleeding hearts love to hate.

I remember reading a good article about how comedy entertainment actually is a powerful and often overlooked influence on the political views of the American public. Many comedians have a strong left-wing bias, which is reflected in their comedy. I think audiences actually allow themselves unwittingly to be subtly influenced more by comedians, because they let their guard down more when they see the show as being mostly entertainment, and the comedians tell jokes and make them laugh, and many are fooled into seeing them as merely "court jesters" telling "uncomfortable truths."

Things may have changed since then, and I admit I don't usually watch tv, but the article noted how shows like SNL were remarkably timid in spoofing Obama, compared with past presidents, and when they did Obama sketches, he was treated largely as a straight man, and the laughs were at the expense of those who oppose him.

It seems that since Obama and liberal Democrats control the presidency and both houses of Congress, the Left, which previously liked to pose as rebels fearlessly standing up for truth against an oppressive government, now direct all their ire and mockery against anyone who dare oppose the current regime (Oh, those awful people in the right-wing media!).

The "court jesters" are now nothing but loyal toadies of their current king, whom they will dare not speak many "uncomfortable truths" about.
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So rather than comment on the actual story, you go off on a rant about the "liberal media." Regardless of how you feel about the source, what are your thoughts on story at hand?

[Winchester]

[quote name='fidei defensor' timestamp='1282871052' post='2163799']
So rather than comment on the actual story, you go off on a rant about the "liberal media." Regardless of how you feel about the source, what are your thoughts on story at hand?
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[quote name='Winchester' timestamp='1282871200' post='2163803']
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Exactly.

[Winchester]

I love you both. You know that.

[SaintOfVirtue]

[quote name='Winchester' timestamp='1282871453' post='2163809']
I love you both. You know that.
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Love your avatar.

[Socrates]

[quote name='Jesus_lol' timestamp='1282866296' post='2163729']
I dont think you have watched much of The Daily Show recently. He spends about half his time making fun of Obama and the liberals. Heck, a few days ago he issued an apology for his coverage of something years ago and agreed with Charlton Heston's speech to the NRA. yup, sounds like a leftist wacko.
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Like I said, I don't watch tv. Never called anyone a "leftist wacko."

The article I referenced was written not that long after Obama's swearing-in, and I don't recall it talking about Jon Stewart specifically, though other examples were given. At that time, there was this attitude of reverence concerning Obama, which thankfully seems to fading now.

[quote name='sixpence' timestamp='1282866917' post='2163735']
Both shows make fun of anything ridiculous either party does, and yes they are biased toward the liberal side of things sometimes, but they are just trying to get as many viewers as possible. Out of character, both fully admit that their show is not meant as "news" or even on the border of news and comedy. It is not their fault that if people take what they say unquestioningly or if there is no countering comedic "conservative show".

edit: o wait... i forget about rush limbaugh... i guess its even
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Part of the point was that a lot of people are lazy and don't bother to educate themselves on politics, so tv comedy shows and such are mostly what informs their political opinions when they actually bother to vote.

Apathy and intellectual laziness on the part of the public are as much to blame as anything else.

[SaintOfVirtue]

[quote name='Socrates' timestamp='1282932463' post='2164192']
Apathy and intellectual laziness on the part of the public are as much to blame as anything else.
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I concur. It seems I'm the only one of my friends who makes an honest effort to stay informed, and who doesn't consider comedy central a "good source of information". I asked a few friends the other day who they might be voting for in the up coming elections, they hadn't a clue who was even running.

[Sarah147]

[quote name='Socrates' timestamp='1282844988' post='2163567']
I remember reading a good article about how comedy entertainment actually is a powerful and often overlooked influence on the political views of the American public. Many comedians have a strong left-wing bias, which is reflected in their comedy. I think audiences actually allow themselves unwittingly to be subtly influenced more by comedians, because they let their guard down more when they see the show as being mostly entertainment, and the comedians tell jokes and make them laugh, and many are fooled into seeing them as merely "court jesters" telling "uncomfortable truths."
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So true.

I stick with Fox News -- it's as right-wing, republican and conservative as I can find. Admittedly not perfect.

[Sarah147]

[quote name='Socrates' timestamp='1282844988' post='2163567']I remember reading a good article about how comedy entertainment actually is a powerful and often overlooked influence on the political views of the American public. Many comedians have a strong left-wing bias, which is reflected in their comedy. I think audiences actually allow themselves unwittingly to be subtly influenced more by comedians, because they let their guard down more when they see the show as being mostly entertainment, and the comedians tell jokes and make them laugh, and many are fooled into seeing them as merely "court jesters" telling "uncomfortable truths."[/quote]

So true.


I stick with Fox News -- it's as right-wing, republican and conservative as I can find. Admittedly not perfect.

Edited August 30, 2010 by JoyfulLife

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[quote name='Socrates' timestamp='1282932463' post='2164192']
Like I said, I don't watch tv. Never called anyone a "leftist wacko."

The article I referenced was written not that long after Obama's swearing-in, and I don't recall it talking about Jon Stewart specifically, though other examples were given. At that time, there was this attitude of reverence concerning Obama, which thankfully seems to fading now.


Part of the point was that a lot of people are lazy and don't bother to educate themselves on politics, so tv comedy shows and such are mostly what informs their political opinions when they actually bother to vote.

Apathy and intellectual laziness on the part of the public are as much to blame as anything else.
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And still, you haven't addressed the reason for the thread and the subject of the video. Do you have anything to say about it or are you just going to continue to attack strawmen?

[Jesus_lol]

[quote name='JoyfulLife' timestamp='1283134427' post='2165205']
So true.


I stick with Fox News -- it's as right-wing, republican and conservative as I can find. Admittedly not perfect.
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Fox recently won a lawsuit that says they are allowed to lie during their news segments. that doesnt say it all, but it sure says a lot.

Edited August 30, 2010 by Jesus_lol

[Winchester]

[quote name='fidei defensor' timestamp='1283136050' post='2165217']
And still, you haven't addressed the reason for the thread and the subject of the video. Do you have anything to say about it or are you just going to continue to attack strawmen?
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I think you underestimate our intenst hatred for strawmen.

[Jesus_lol]

[quote name='Winchester' timestamp='1283195245' post='2165509']
I think you underestimate our intenst hatred for strawmen.
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Winchester and Socrates, discussing their hatred for strawmen.
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and wandering minstrels it would appear.


now that i think of it., that dude in the ditch looks like Nihil.

Edited August 30, 2010 by Jesus_lol

[Winchester]

Shut up, Canadian.

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='Jesus_lol' timestamp='1283195764' post='2165521']
Winchester and Socrates, discussing their hatred for strawmen.
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and wandering minstrels it would appear.


now that i think of it., that dude in the ditch looks like Nihil.
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I so do not have flowing golden locks.

[Sarah147]

[quote name='Jesus_lol' timestamp='1283139393' post='2165241']
Fox recently won a lawsuit that says they are allowed to lie during their news segments. that doesnt say it all, but it sure says a lot.
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Can you link to an article or report about that? I'd be interested to read about it.

[Sarah147]

[quote name='Jesus_lol' timestamp='1283139393' post='2165241']
Fox recently won a lawsuit that says they are allowed to lie during their news segments. that doesnt say it all, but it sure says a lot.
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Can you link to an article or report about that? I'd be interested to read about it.

[Jesus_lol]

[quote name='Winchester' timestamp='1283196027' post='2165525']
Shut up, Canadian.
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I get it, today must be "pretend to hate your favourite person" day?

[quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1283196077' post='2165527']
I so do not have flowing golden locks.
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is that because you were frequently getting attacked by roaming gangs of murderous crows? cause thats a pretty good reason to change hairstyles.

[Jesus_lol]

[quote name='JoyfulLife' timestamp='1283197065' post='2165549']
Can you link to an article or report about that? I'd be interested to read about it.
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here is one [url="http://www.philly2philly.com/politics_community/politics_community_articles/2009/6/29/4854/fox_news_wins_lawsuit_misinform_public"]http://www.philly2ph...isinform_public[/url]

[url="http://www.relfe.com/media_can_legally_lie.html"]http://www.relfe.com...egally_lie.html[/url]

i guess that wasnt recently, 2003.

Edited August 30, 2010 by Jesus_lol

[Sarah147]

[quote name='Jesus_lol' timestamp='1283197430' post='2165554']
here is one [url="http://www.philly2philly.com/politics_community/politics_community_articles/2009/6/29/4854/fox_news_wins_lawsuit_misinform_public"]http://www.philly2ph...isinform_public[/url]

[url="http://www.relfe.com/media_can_legally_lie.html"]http://www.relfe.com...egally_lie.html[/url]

i guess that wasnt recently, 2003.
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People have to take everything with a grain of salt.

The article goes on to say that not one mainstream media organization, through google, has reports about this supposed case. And a poster on the page says that the case isn't real.

Honestly, how would that hold up in court? You are swearing on the Bible to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth; and then you are fighting to lie to the public on national TV, pretending to be telling the truth, deception.

Then again, people running for politics run false ads on TV all the time, and left-wing media lies about the right-wing.