Modesty Vs. Morality

[PedroX]

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[quote]No matter what type of clothes we wear, we are in danger of showing off some part of our body, unless we wear a long potato sack.[/quote]


[quote]We can solve all this talk about women's immodesty quite quickly ...

Get pregnant! Then when you have stretch marks you won't want to show anything!

(Please, folks, I kid. That's what I do!) [/quote]




peace...

[marielapin]

[quote name='Azriel' date='Apr 22 2004, 03:16 PM'] We can solve all this talk about women's immodesty quite quickly ...

Get pregnant! Then when you have stretch marks you won't want to show anything!

(Please, folks, I kid. That's what I do!) [/quote]
Azzie, you crack me up!


I've found that getting pregnant though throws another cog into the modesty thing...you have ahem...larger areas to cover than before, and have to look even harder for modest clothing.

In the maternity store I could hardly find any shirts that did not show major cleavage. Why do they cut maternity shirts that way? I was getting majorly frustrated.

[Dave]

[quote name='popestpiusx' date='Apr 21 2004, 12:12 PM'] Desensitization does NOT justify anything. In fact, it is part of the problem. The fact that so many people have no issue with this is proof of how bad our society is, and NOT a justification for continued immodesty.

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NO ONE has said that desensitization justifies anything! If people are desensitized, then that may make it harder for them to be tempted, but not one person on here has said that would make it ok!

[CreepyCrawler]

don't we all agree that:
men and women need to guard their eyes
men and women should dress modestly
men and women should not wear bikinis in public
what are we still debating about? :confused:

[cmotherofpirl]

not much...

[IcePrincessKRS]

Stretch marks and larger areas.... don't get me started!!!! UGH! Well, I wouldn't wear clothes that showed off my stretch marks anyhow, but for the other thing..... Thats the one body change I really really despize.

You men have no idea how lucky you are. lol

[Carrie]

they've got no idea Ice, lol

[CreepyCrawler]

well, men can never experience the joy of carrying and then giving birth to a child -- it's a tradeoff for the stretch marks. I think guys get stretch marks, too, but they don't wear shirts that show their mid-driffs. thank goodness!

[God Conquers]

[quote]but they don't wear shirts that show their mid-driffs.  thank goodness![/quote]

you got that right!

[Azriel]

I knew my girls would understand.

[cmotherofpirl]

yep

[crusader1234]

I still think bikinis are OK on the beach.

[Mickey's_Girl]

LOL! Crusader, you're just trying to mix it up again! Or have the last word, one of the two...

We should all be modest, in whatever direction. Wearing proper clothing, not objectifying others--it's all part of it. And let us be reasonable: there is, to a certain extent, a *cultural* influence on what constitutes "modest". For instance: pants on women used to be considered immodest. But then, hundreds of years ago, men wore skirts...which one is "right"? Some things on the "modesty scale" change. Obviously, some things do not (bikinis, hee hee hee).

It is not possible for a woman to read the minds of every male she encounters. She must do her best, try to use common (uncommon?) sense, get the counsel of godly people, and trust the Holy Spirit to tell her when she's gone too far.

Let's put the shoe on the other foot. Most of us, I think, have heard the idea that men lust physically, while women "lust" emotionally (or perhaps "covet" is a better word? envy?). What do you think of that? And what about the responsibility of men in not inducing that emotional lust? But that never seems to get talked about...

MG

[crusader1234]

uh oh i got cought.... im heading back to open mic and creepy aliens. hahaha.

[pinstripes]

[quote name='Carrie' date='Apr 22 2004, 10:42 AM'] So basically, unless exercising, I should tailor how I dress because men cannot control themselves?

Have to love the double standard here.

And cmom, your post is right on! [/quote]
My apologies...

Little did I know what I was saying, when I attempted to state reasons why men fall into lust. I did in no way mean to say that it is not a guys fault.

It is a guys fault for allowing himself to fall into lust because of how he is looking at a woman.

Men have eyelids and they should close them if they have to.

Next time I feel like hearing it after putting my foot in my mouth, I’ll make sure to start a thread.

Thanks guys.

Edited April 23, 2004 by pinstripes

[cmotherofpirl]

Looking is a separate act from lusting. You can admire someone who is beautiful and appreciate God made them that way, which is different than lusting over them.
Lust is a choice.

[Carrie]

right cmom!

[NewReformation]

[quote name='cmotherofpirl' date='Apr 23 2004, 03:55 AM'] Looking is a separate act from lusting. You can admire someone who is beautiful and appreciate God made them that way, which is different than lusting over them.
Lust is a choice. [/quote]
Yes, it is a choice. And showing off one's nakedness is a choice too, a bad one.

[Sojourner]

[quote name='Mickey's_Girl' date='Apr 22 2004, 11:39 PM'] Let's put the shoe on the other foot. Most of us, I think, have heard the idea that men lust physically, while women "lust" emotionally (or perhaps "covet" is a better word? envy?). What do you think of that? And what about the responsibility of men in not inducing that emotional lust? But that never seems to get talked about...

MG [/quote]
Personally, I think lust manifested in women is a lot harder to define, both for men and women. I'd guess most people don't talk about it because they don't really understand it. In fact, I've heard a lot of talks about lust as men experience it, but I've only heard a couple of brief mentions about lust as women experience it.

[pinstripes]

once again, critisized for not being 100% specific in my explanation, assuming people could think for themselves.

this site doesn't show much compassion in it's debates... goodbye