Catholic Monarchy....

[Vincent Vega]

[quote name='Cam42' timestamp='1309031017' post='2258679']
And if you don't think that the Pope has political sway, you're on some sort of island somewhere. He has the political ear of almost half of all Christians...
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Which is why some 48% of American Catholics are pro-abortion? (http://www.lifenews.com/2008/10/15/nat-4450/)

[quote name='DanielSvenOConnor' timestamp='1310044461' post='2263971']None of what he did is objective evil, and none of it is clear heresy.
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Neither is saying that Mexicans are an inferior race of people and that their small skulls impede their ability to learn. I bet that a video preaching that wouldn't go over very well either, though.

[fides' Jack]

[quote name='Socrates' timestamp='1309285702' post='2259768']
And, no, I have not watched the Michael Vortis video, as I really don't care what he says that much one way or another. We should be much more concerned about the democratically-elected idiots in power who are putting us in $14 trillion of debt, and destroying our country's future.
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Hmm... Very interesting thread - wish I found it sooner.

I watched both videos, and found them both quite interesting. I have to say I agree with Mr. V. But it seems many people missed the real point he was getting at - the best government would be one in which only [i][b]good[/b][/i] Catholics can vote. The problem is that those are so few and far between that such a government becomes impossible, that is, until Christ comes again and becomes the Monarch that Mr. V is talking about.

As for the quote above, I sometimes wonder if we're too late. I got into a discussion about this recently; most people don't realize that China owns about half of the US right now. All it would take for our country to fall into absolute chaos is for China to come calling for what we owe. When they get the answer, "Oh, well, we can't pay you. We don't have trillions of dollars to give you," then trade with China ceases, Walmart is out of business within a week, the dollar loses its value, the government shuts down, and all of these selfless people that Mr. V is talking about start doing what they do best - murder, steal, rape, etc... Whatever they need...

EDIT: That was an exaggeration - about China owning half of the US. But whatever the real number is, it's still sufficient enough to cripple our economy.

Edited July 13, 2011 by fides' Jack

[Vincent Vega]

[quote name='fides' Jack' timestamp='1310582906' post='2267015']
Hmm... Very interesting thread - wish I found it sooner.

I watched both videos, and found them both quite interesting. I have to say I agree with Mr. V. But it seems many people missed the real point he was getting at - the best government would be one in which only [i][b]good[/b][/i] Catholics can vote. The problem is that those are so few and far between that such a government becomes impossible, that is, until Christ comes again and becomes the Monarch that Mr. V is talking about.

As for the quote above, I sometimes wonder if we're too late. I got into a discussion about this recently; most people don't realize that China owns about half of the US right now. All it would take for our country to fall into absolute chaos is for China to come calling for what we owe. When they get the answer, "Oh, well, we can't pay you. We don't have trillions of dollars to give you," then trade with China ceases, Walmart is out of business within a week, the dollar loses its value, the government shuts down, and all of these selfless people that Mr. V is talking about start doing what they do best - murder, steal, rape, etc... Whatever they need...

EDIT: That was an exaggeration - about China owning half of the US. But whatever the real number is, it's still sufficient enough to cripple our economy.
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I read something not too long ago about how this is just a big scare tactic and doing that would hurt China as bad/worse than it would hurt us. Let me try to find it...

[kujo]

[quote name='USAirwaysIHS' timestamp='1310584016' post='2267026']
I read something not too long ago about how this is just a big scare tactic and doing that would hurt China as bad/worse than it would hurt us. Let me try to find it...
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Exactly! We don't have the money, and their entire economic system would default if they couldn't "collect" what we "owe."

Another thing to realize is that global finance doesn't function the way small business and personal loans do. It's not like they wrote us checks for "x" amount of dollars, with "x" percent interest rates. Rather, it's a continual investment in the money and the infrastructure of our country--both the political, economic, social and LITERAL infrastructure. They could no more "recall" our debt than they could invade our shores. It would be tantamount to a financial "mutually assured destruction," the likes of which Kissinger would salivate over.

By the way, has anyone here read his new book on China called "On China?" I gave it to my father for Father's Day and he just finished it. Said it was excellent.

[Lil Red]

[quote name='kujo' timestamp='1310586593' post='2267051']
By the way, has anyone here read his new book on China called "On China?" I gave it to my father for Father's Day and he just finished it. Said it was excellent.
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actually, i just finished reading an [url="http://www.crisismagazine.com/2011/china-watching-in-the-vatican"]article by Weigel[/url], in which he references the book.

[kujo]

[quote name='Lil Red' timestamp='1310588583' post='2267084']
actually, i just finished reading an [url="http://www.crisismagazine.com/2011/china-watching-in-the-vatican"]article by Weigel[/url], in which he references the book.
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Kissinger is the epitome of [i]real politik[/i] and I imagine that his analysis will involve all of the themes and tropes of that political philosophy. Still, I'm really excited to read it once he's done with it.