The Texas Unmiracle

[Vincent Vega]

[quote name='Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam' timestamp='1313436839' post='2288524']

The best thing to come out of Texas is I-10 East.
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i lold
[quote name='LinaSt.Cecilia2772' timestamp='1313438671' post='2288542']

because i dont want to offend anyone. i'm not particularly a Perry fan, me being a texas resident and all.
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What a silly reason not to say something. Say it and to hell with the whiners if they're offended.

Edited August 16, 2011 by USAirwaysIHS

[Jaime]

[quote name='Hasan' timestamp='1313453854' post='2288702']
I guess I missed the part where you actually engaged with Krugman's argument, Socrates.
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He does that.

[LinaSt.Cecilia2772]

[quote name='Brother Adam' timestamp='1313441558' post='2288572']
No really, why don't we like Perry? I have no opinion. If there are "C"atholics who would not vote for him I would like to know why.
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Well the main thing that i dont like him for is that in texas he cut alot of money from the public education system. Me being a student in public school, it has affected my education, the teachers' job that educate me and fellow students, and many other school district jobs within the state. Including my mom's job. Thats the main reason why i dont like him. If he cant help the education system in the state he governs, how in the world is he going to do this on the national level with added college education reform and such??? Im sorry but education is way too valuable to cut money from. Im not saying i disagree with everything he has done, but the majority of what he has done within texas has not been successful.

I dont understand what you mean by "C"atholics?

[Amppax]

[quote name='LinaSt.Cecilia2772' timestamp='1313458543' post='2288790']

Well the main thing that i dont like him for is that in texas he cut alot of money from the public education system. Me being a student in public school, it has affected my education, the teachers' job that educate me and fellow students, and many other school district jobs within the state. Including my mom's job. Thats the main reason why i dont like him. If he cant help the education system in the state he governs, how in the world is he going to do this on the national level with added college education reform and such??? Im sorry but education is way too valuable to cut money from. Im not saying i disagree with everything he has done, but the majority of what he has done within texas has not been successful.

I dont understand what you mean by "C"atholics?
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you know, as opposed to "c"atholics

[4588686]

[quote name='LinaSt.Cecilia2772' timestamp='1313458543' post='2288790']

I dont understand what you mean by "C"atholics?
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Those would be Catholics who pass Bro. Adam's purity test, I believe.

[Amppax]

[quote name='Hasan' timestamp='1313458701' post='2288796']


Those would be Catholics who pass Bro. Adam's purity test, I believe.
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the purity test being adhering to the Church's authority, unless I've been misunderstanding Bro all this time.

[LinaSt.Cecilia2772]

[quote name='Amppax' timestamp='1313459012' post='2288804']

the purity test being adhering to the Church's authority, unless I've been misunderstanding Bro all this time.
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ohhhh now i get it. thanks for fillin me in!! =)

[Amppax]

[quote name='LinaSt.Cecilia2772' timestamp='1313459630' post='2288818']

ohhhh now i get it. thanks for fillin me in!! =)
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no problem.

[Vincent Vega]

[quote name='LinaSt.Cecilia2772' timestamp='1313458543' post='2288790']

Well the main thing that i dont like him for is that in texas he cut alot of money from the public education system. Me being a student in public school, it has affected my education, the teachers' job that educate me and fellow students, and many other school district jobs within the state. Including my mom's job. Thats the main reason why i dont like him. If he cant help the education system in the state he governs, how in the world is he going to do this on the national level with added college education reform and such??? Im sorry but education is way too valuable to cut money from. Im not saying i disagree with everything he has done, but the majority of what he has done within texas has not been successful.

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Oh he's one of those.
We have one of those. Except he's also a criminal.

I'm seriously considering voting democrat next gubernatorial election. This guy and his predecessor have been arse hats.


I miss Jeb.

[LinaSt.Cecilia2772]

[quote name='USAirwaysIHS' timestamp='1313459945' post='2288822']
Oh he's one of those.
We have one of those. Except he's also a criminal.

I'm seriously considering voting democrat next gubernatorial election. This guy and his predecessor have been arse hats.


I miss Jeb.
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yeah im weird. im not republican, but im not democrat either. but if i had to give myself a formal label on political party, i would be a VERY conservative democrat.

[Amppax]

[quote name='USAirwaysIHS' timestamp='1313459945' post='2288822']
Oh he's one of those.
We have one of those. Except he's also a criminal.

I'm seriously considering voting democrat next gubernatorial election. This guy and his predecessor have been arse hats.


I miss Jeb.
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haha, my aunt went from being an independent to being a hardcore democrat in about 2 seconds flat. She's a school teacher, and she LOATHES your governor.

[Vincent Vega]

[quote name='Amppax' timestamp='1313460429' post='2288834']

haha, my aunt went from being an independent to being a hardcore democrat in about 2 seconds flat. She's a school teacher, and she LOATHES your governor.
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Only about 2 out of 10 people don't.

[Brother Adam]

[quote name='LinaSt.Cecilia2772' timestamp='1313458543' post='2288790']

Well the main thing that i dont like him for is that in texas he cut alot of money from the public education system. Me being a student in public school, it has affected my education, the teachers' job that educate me and fellow students, and many other school district jobs within the state. Including my mom's job. Thats the main reason why i dont like him. If he cant help the education system in the state he governs, how in the world is he going to do this on the national level with added college education reform and such??? Im sorry but education is way too valuable to cut money from. Im not saying i disagree with everything he has done, but the majority of what he has done within texas has not been successful.

I dont understand what you mean by "C"atholics?
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Why did he cut money from public education and why is he bad for doing that? From what I understand most public education systems are over saturated with money and under performing - they simply don't work. If I give you money to do something and you don't do it, I'll probably take the money away from you. Or was there just no money in the budget and he was being fiscally conservative and not spending what he didn't have. As a Catholic I am not a fan of public education which exists for the state to make citizens of the state. I think of it as an absolute last case scenario when a family cannot home school or send their children to private school.

[Brother Adam]

"C"atholic - a Roman Catholic who practices their faith as opposed to someone who simply calls themselves catholic (CINO - Catholic in name only) but does not actually believe or practice the Catholic faith. It has nothing to do with a purity test, it is about being honest with yourself and others.

[LinaSt.Cecilia2772]

[quote name='Brother Adam' timestamp='1313518373' post='2289234']

Why did he cut money from public education and why is he bad for doing that? From what I understand most public education systems are over saturated with money and under performing - they simply don't work. If I give you money to do something and you don't do it, I'll probably take the money away from you. Or was there just no money in the budget and he was being fiscally conservative and not spending what he didn't have. As a Catholic I am not a fan of public education which exists for the state to make citizens of the state. I think of it as an absolute last case scenario when a family cannot home school or send their children to private school.
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In texas we take our public education very seriously. Especially in Austin where i live. Our public school systems have fifty bagillion students, and it's bad that he cut all that money from us because it took away alot of teaching jobs, administrative jobs, special education programs, and cut out alot of needs each individual school has to have such as textbooks, utilities, etc. So yeah it is very bad that he cut that money from the system. And public school sytems do work if they have the right leadership. Here in austin we have been blessed to have a great public school system with good leaders, teachers, administrators, and students. But how can we keep this great public school system working without the money necessary from the state to make it work and successful for our students? And there are people who are citizens of the united states who depend on public school to educate their children. Especially in this economy, not all families can afford to home school or send their children to private school. Public school has worked for me my entire life, and it will until i graduate in 2013. it worked for my brother too, and many other people i know who are attending very good colleges and universities.

[4588686]

[quote name='Brother Adam' timestamp='1313518373' post='2289234']

Why did he cut money from public education and why is he bad for doing that? From what I understand most public education systems are over saturated with money and under performing - they simply don't work. If I give you money to do something and you don't do it, I'll probably take the money away from you. Or was there just no money in the budget and he was being fiscally conservative and not spending what he didn't have. As a Catholic I am not a fan of public education which exists for the state to make citizens of the state. I think of it as an absolute last case scenario when a family cannot home school or send their children to private school.
[/quote]

Did you go to public school?

[4588686]

[quote name='Brother Adam' timestamp='1313518654' post='2289235']
"C"atholic - a Roman Catholic who practices their faith as opposed to someone who simply calls themselves catholic (CINO - Catholic in name only) but does not actually believe or practice the Catholic faith. It has nothing to do with a purity test, it is about being honest with yourself and others.
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A Roman Catholic who practices their faith as you feel they ought to. It is a purity tesy. Just like that RINO the essence of cow you knocked off for that CINO the essence of cow.

[Brother Adam]

[quote name='Hasan' timestamp='1313524712' post='2289318']

Did you go to public school?
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Only for 13 years.

[quote name='Hasan' timestamp='1313524811' post='2289320']


A Roman Catholic who practices their faith as you feel they ought to. It is a purity tesy. Just like that RINO the essence of cow you knocked off for that CINO the essence of cow.
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How I feel has nothing to do with it. You typically don't fail this hard in logic.

[Brother Adam]

[quote name='LinaSt.Cecilia2772' timestamp='1313524133' post='2289312']

In texas we take our public education very seriously. Especially in Austin where i live. Our public school systems have fifty bagillion students, and it's bad that he cut all that money from us because it took away alot of teaching jobs, administrative jobs, special education programs, and cut out alot of needs each individual school has to have such as textbooks, utilities, etc. So yeah it is very bad that he cut that money from the system. And public school sytems do work if they have the right leadership. Here in austin we have been blessed to have a great public school system with good leaders, teachers, administrators, and students. But how can we keep this great public school system working without the money necessary from the state to make it work and successful for our students? And there are people who are citizens of the united states who depend on public school to educate their children. Especially in this economy, not all families can afford to home school or send their children to private school. Public school has worked for me my entire life, and it will until i graduate in 2013. it worked for my brother too, and many other people i know who are attending very good colleges and universities.
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Fair enough, which is why I asked, but that is rare. Corruption in public school systems and their unions is pretty common. Having students get into a good school isn't the only measure of success though, jaime (the artist formerly known as hot stuff) Escalante taught us a lot about that.

[Brother Adam]

Back to Perry, we have only covered one decision (not really even a policy) that Catholics disagree with. Why else is he the wrong choice? What makes Obama a better option? Where does he stand on the 5 non-negotiable issues for Catholics? What about national defense? How will he fix our fiscal problems? Immigration policy? Does he pull the full republican party line or deviate from it and where?