Nunsense Posted October 5, 2011 Posted October 5, 2011 Pretty much the same at the Carmels with the traditional habit, but they also wore a white toque (referred to as a wimple in other orders) that encloses the head and goes under the chin. At WV, we could choose to have this stitched up under the chin or use straight pins to close it. I had straight pins but sometimes they would get dislodged and stick me, so I think the stitched up ones are probably safer and more comfortable - but not as adjustable for comfort. The underveil was pinned to the toque and worn all the time. Then an overveil was worn over this for Choir and Mass, but taken off and folded for doing work (like gardening or kitchen duties, etc).
faithcecelia Posted October 5, 2011 Posted October 5, 2011 [quote name='brandelynmarie' timestamp='1317774259' post='2315422'] Thanks. i was drawing a blank with the underskirt/top/tunic. Do you always have to wear them? (I'm guessing they protect the habit.) In warmer months, I would be tempted to go without something! [/quote] The top you could possibly get away without, but bear in mind Q was exceptional in washing habits regularly every month - on the whole it tends to be about 6mthly! It is far nicer knowing you can get the clothes touching you skin washed, especially as if its that hot you are probably perspiring I had to wear it as most of my work was in the kitchen and we took our habits off for that and wore smocks, changing in a little cubbyroom! The cotte actually made the habit far more comfortable - I had cotton for summer and wool for winter, with a polyester habit - but I did occasionally leave it off if I knew I could keep my habit at full length. Oh and for Compline many of us would have our nightwear under our habits instead!
Nunsense Posted October 5, 2011 Posted October 5, 2011 [quote name='brandelynmarie' timestamp='1317774259' post='2315422'] Thanks. i was drawing a blank with the underskirt/top/tunic. Do you always have to wear them? (I'm guessing they protect the habit.) In warmer months, I would be tempted to go without something! [/quote] The underclothes are pretty much a personal choice. We wore the cotte and cotton undertunic (and I wore pettipants) and as faith said, it was optional to wear more underclothes (like long sleeved singlets in the cold) but in the summer, in addition to wearing a lighter weight habit, we could choose to wear less underneath (although we always wore the cotte). At Edmonton, we had a 'working habit' that we changed into before starting work (every time!!) and this was a lighter weight cotton cassock. They developed this custom in Macau (where they came from) because of the intense heat)... but it seemed silly to me in Canada where the temps were 40C below! In England I liked the warmer clothes underneath because the monastery was cold and mostly unheated (heat turned on in certain places at certain times only).
brandelynmarie Posted October 5, 2011 Author Posted October 5, 2011 (edited) [quote name='nunsense' timestamp='1317774356' post='2315424'] Pretty much the same at the Carmels with the traditional habit, but they also wore a white toque (referred to as a wimple in other orders) that encloses the head and goes under the chin. At WV, we could choose to have this stitched up under the chin or use straight pins to close it. I had straight pins but sometimes they would get dislodged and stick me, so I think the stitched up ones are probably safer and more comfortable - but not as adjustable for comfort. The underveil was pinned to the toque and worn all the time. Then an overveil was worn over this for Choir and Mass, but taken off and folded for doing work (like gardening or kitchen duties, etc). [/quote] What you are describing kinda reminds me of what I saw in that recent movie about St. Teresa de los Andes.They most definitely had more than one veil. [quote name='faithcecelia' timestamp='1317774623' post='2315433'] The top you could possibly get away without, but bear in mind Q was exceptional in washing habits regularly every month - on the whole it tends to be about 6mthly! It is far nicer knowing you can get the clothes touching you skin washed, especially as if its that hot you are probably perspiring I had to wear it as most of my work was in the kitchen and we took our habits off for that and wore smocks, changing in a little cubbyroom! The cotte actually made the habit far more comfortable - I had cotton for summer and wool for winter, with a polyester habit - but I did occasionally leave it off if I knew I could keep my habit at full length. Oh and for Compline many of us would have our nightwear under our habits instead! [/quote] Wearing your night habit under everything sounds so razzle dazzle! Edited October 5, 2011 by brandelynmarie
brandelynmarie Posted October 5, 2011 Author Posted October 5, 2011 [quote name='nunsense' timestamp='1317774931' post='2315443'] The underclothes are pretty much a personal choice. We wore the cotte and cotton undertunic (and I wore pettipants) and as faith said, it was optional to wear more underclothes (like long sleeved singlets in the cold) but in the summer, in addition to wearing a lighter weight habit, we could choose to wear less underneath (although we always wore the cotte). At Edmonton, we had a 'working habit' that we changed into before starting work (every time!!) and this was a lighter weight cotton cassock. They developed this custom in Macau (where they came from) because of the intense heat)... but it seemed silly to me in Canada where the temps were 40C below! In England I liked the warmer clothes underneath because the monastery was cold and mostly unheated (heat turned on in certain places at certain times only). [/quote] Clothing as penance! It sounds like you could possibly change your clothes fairly often in a day! (Far more often than I do in a day! )
Nunsense Posted October 5, 2011 Posted October 5, 2011 [quote name='brandelynmarie' timestamp='1317775288' post='2315447'] Clothing as penance! It sounds like you could possibly change your clothes fairly often in a day! (Far more often than I do in a day! ) [/quote] Well, at Edmonton, we changed a lot, but at WV I would never change because it was too complicated with straight pins on the shoulders and all the layers, and sometimes the pins even stuck into my shoulders! Talk about penance! And as faith said, it was easier to wear a cardigan and take it off than to take off all the layers. And we never changed into nightwear before Compline because it would have been too complicated and there was only a half hour between Readings (Matins) and Compline anyway. After Compline, I would fetch a bucket of hot water and take it to our cell, strip off (and there was a precise way to take off the habit and fold it too) and then have a good wash before changing into my nightclothes and night scapular etc. So, it is different in each community.
OnlySunshine Posted October 5, 2011 Posted October 5, 2011 (edited) [quote name='LaPetiteSoeur' timestamp='1317771575' post='2315400'] I know about the beards, but do any orders let women with dark hair bleach mustaches? I bleach mine every few weeks, as I have really dark hair. Mustached ladies don't look very presentable! [/quote] This is a little embarrassing: [spoiler]I have such fair, sensitive skin with rosacea that I'm going to have to ask permission to bring my preferred razors with me (Venus Ocean or Sensitive). Since I cannot use any chemicals on my face (unless it is VERY mild), I have to use a razor or tweezers to get rid of the little hairs. It doesn't help when you have Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome which causes excess androgens which leads to excess facial hair (hirsuitism). I absolutely have to use a razor because it's quick and relatively painless (unless I nick myself, of course). I also have to ask to bring my facial care products like face cream since I have dry skin on my T-Zone, wet wipes or mild cleanser, and Sea Breeze Sensitive Astringent. I hope they don't turn me away because of my permissions. [/spoiler] Edited October 5, 2011 by MaterMisericordiae
bmb144 Posted October 5, 2011 Posted October 5, 2011 Mater, I have PCOS also so I know where your coming from...totally!
OnlySunshine Posted October 5, 2011 Posted October 5, 2011 [quote name='In His Light' timestamp='1317784125' post='2315528'] Mater, I have PCOS also so I know where your coming from...totally! [/quote] Always good to know that I am not alone!
bmb144 Posted October 5, 2011 Posted October 5, 2011 A razor is a much needed thing when one has that "problem" the hormones cause....
OnlySunshine Posted October 5, 2011 Posted October 5, 2011 [quote name='In His Light' timestamp='1317794921' post='2315595'] A razor is a much needed thing when one has that "problem" the hormones cause.... [/quote] Yes. It's awful what those androgens do to us women when they are out of control. I just thank God my acne has finally evened out, even if it means I have early onset rosacea.
LaPetiteSoeur Posted October 5, 2011 Posted October 5, 2011 [quote name='MaterMisericordiae' timestamp='1317795143' post='2315599'] Yes. It's awful what those androgens do to us women when they are out of control. I just thank God my acne has finally evened out, even if it means I have early onset rosacea. [/quote] Mine finally decided to go away...my mom got me some amesome soap from clinque. While it's terribly expensive, it's made my face clear! As has the benzyclin. Benzyclin bleaches skin, though, so I use it sparingly (around certain times of months, if you know what I mean...)
cmaD2006 Posted October 5, 2011 Posted October 5, 2011 [quote name='In His Light' timestamp='1317794921' post='2315595'] A razor is a much needed thing when one has that "problem" the hormones cause.... [/quote] ... except I find they come in much thicker when a razor is used. I had an aunt convince me to try waxing them. That doesn't quite work (unless you like to have lots come in for a while). What did work -- once I started tweezing, just keep tweezing. Daily. They definitely have thinned out. ah hormones. Blah.
HopefulBride Posted October 5, 2011 Posted October 5, 2011 [quote name='brandelynmarie' timestamp='1317775130' post='2315444'] What you are describing kinda reminds me of what I saw in that recent movie about St. Teresa de los Andes.They most definitely had more than one veil. [/quote] What was the name of the movie?
brandelynmarie Posted October 5, 2011 Author Posted October 5, 2011 (edited) This is a series of clips from the movie St. Teresa of the Andes. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eA3ciD5Ojb8&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eA3ciD5Ojb8&feature=related[/url] Edited October 5, 2011 by brandelynmarie
brandelynmarie Posted October 5, 2011 Author Posted October 5, 2011 [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=377nMTqRsiA&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=377nMTqRsiA&feature=related[/url]
brandelynmarie Posted October 5, 2011 Author Posted October 5, 2011 [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYmoyVEjamo&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYmoyVEjamo&feature=related[/url]
faithcecelia Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 [quote name='LaPetiteSoeur' timestamp='1317844843' post='2315762'] Mine finally decided to go away...my mom got me some amesome soap from clinque. While it's terribly expensive, it's made my face clear! As has the benzyclin. Benzyclin bleaches skin, though, so I use it sparingly (around certain times of months, if you know what I mean... ) [/quote] Was it a bar or liquid? I only use Clinique on my face - my skin cracks at even the thought of another brand - and while expensive in the first place, their bars last 2yrs of twice daily washing!
LaPetiteSoeur Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 [quote name='faithcecelia' timestamp='1317882580' post='2315968'] Was it a bar or liquid? I only use Clinique on my face - my skin cracks at even the thought of another brand - and while expensive in the first place, their bars last 2yrs of twice daily washing! [/quote] When I'm at school (which is now most of the year), I use the liquid, only because it's easier to keep neat. I have a bar, too, but that's at home.
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