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Monjas Coronadas/crowned Nuns


brandelynmarie

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[quote name='brandelynmarie' timestamp='1317418166' post='2313017']
I'm beginning to think that the flowers & shields & crowns were to show...that the Final Profession was connected to what is divine & heavenly. When I see them, I think of Heaven. :blush:
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They remind me of Heaven too, brides of Christ in their glory! :saint:

[quote name='Francis Clare' timestamp='1317426557' post='2313117']
No, Monjas Coronadas is simply the spanish translation of the English, crowned nuns. Many of the Mexican orders (and I'm sure others in South American and Spain) used this practice in colonial times.[/quote]

Okay, thanks! I knew it meant crowned nuns, but I was wondering for a second if this was an actual order! :topsy:

[quote name='brandelynmarie' timestamp='1317437510' post='2313205']
Even when I see profession wreaths, I think of these things. :blush:

[img]http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l6vg19BJr31qd4kcco1_500.jpg[/img]
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Love this!! :love:

[quote name='HopefulBride' timestamp='1317430830' post='2313152']
So these sisters are carmelites? I am so confused
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The nuns in the clip from the documentary are Conceptionists, like this one ..

[img]http://www.cesarvulcanouk.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/houseofguadalupe/monjas%20coronadas/monja2.jpg[/img]


But here are some crowned Carmelites for you :)

[img]http://www.cesarvulcanouk.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/houseofguadalupe/monjas%20coronadas/monjacoronadatittle.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.cesarvulcanouk.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/houseofguadalupe/monjas%20coronadas/monja4.jpg[/img]

[img]http://letraslibres.com/sites/default/files/imagenes_articulos/img_art_10461_2891.jpg[/img]

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brandelynmarie

There ya go! Carmelites! I was wondering if one I had posted esrlier was a Dominican. I'm loving this :proud:. And I must remember St. Pascual! I need all the help I can get :saint2:.

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[quote name='brandelynmarie' timestamp='1317621189' post='2314434']
There ya go! Carmelites! I was wondering if one I had posted esrlier was a Dominican. I'm loving this :proud:. And I must remember St. Pascual! I need all the help I can get :saint2:.
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And I happened upon [url="http://www.flickr.com/photos/xquendamario/4913731051/in/set-72157625647138621"]another crowned Carmelite[/url] today too, searching for something else actually. This one is from the Monastery of St. Teresa of Jesus in Guadalajara, which is the one that founded Cristo Rey in San Francisco (a little mention of it on their page [url="http://www.federacion-ocd-mx.org/?p=2352"]here[/url]) which founded Valparaiso and so forth. Small world :like:

But just to say again (sorry if I'm being redundant!) .. the nuns in the documentary clip (that look a bit like Dominicans) are Conceptionist Nuns, founded by St. Beatriz da Silva.

[img]http://www.marypages.com/santa-beatriz-da-silva.jpg[/img]


To my knowledge off the top of my head (too lazy to even Google!) they are only in Spain and Latin American countries. I wrote their monastery in Agreda once and they sent me a bunch of 3rd class relics of Venerable Maria of Agreda :saint:

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[quote name='Chiquitunga' timestamp='1317664877' post='2314684']
But just to say again (sorry if I'm being redundant!) .. the nuns in the documentary clip (that look a bit like Dominicans) are Conceptionist Nuns, founded by St. Beatriz da Silva.

[img]http://www.marypages.com/santa-beatriz-da-silva.jpg[/img]


To my knowledge off the top of my head (too lazy to even Google!) they are only in Spain and Latin American countries. I wrote their monastery in Agreda once and they sent me a bunch of 3rd class relics of Venerable Maria of Agreda :saint:
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Actually the Conceptionist Nuns deserve a thread all their own, I think, as they have been around for something like five hundred years; they still exist; and their founder has been canonized (by Pope Paul VI).
One reason they haven't got a thread of their own at Phatmass, is that they are not to be found in English speaking countries. If I read the historical summaries right:
they originated in Europe, and for a few hundred years they had a European presence, even in Belgium. Today I think that there are none left in Belgium.
They are still strong in Spain and Portugal. Maybe some in Italy. Brazil and Mexico, definitely.
Their founder was royalty, and she sort of took refuge in a monastery of cloistered Dominican nuns.
When they were first founded, the Conceptionists used a Benedictine/Cistercian rule.
Then when the Church agreed to make their congregation official, they were assigned to the Franciscans, and regarded as a version of the Poor Clares -- but they were allowed to keep their distinctive Conceptionist habit, the habit that is the basis of all these portraits of Monjas Coronadas (crowned nuns).

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brandelynmarie

Wow, a little bit of everything on their heritage! And to [b]REALLY[/b] mix things up, I found a retablo[b] of [/b]monjas coronadas! ;) (Can you tell I'm on vacation?)
[img]http://www.mexicania.com.mx/cats/images/DSC08757.jpg[/img]

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brandelynmarie

Ummmmmmm....it was on an antique website.....I was on-line with no sleep! Let me see if I can track it down, :topsy: .

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brandelynmarie

Found it! I do pretty good Scooby work. [url="http://www.mexicania.com.mx/cats/pag2.php"]http://www.mexicania.com.mx/cats/pag2.php[/url]

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Thanks for the info!!! Went to their website and sent a message in Spanish. We go to Tonala' from time to time, so perhaps I'll get an answer as to if it's still available or if I'd have to cut my right arm off to purchase it :pigsfly:

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brandelynmarie

Oh how wonderful! I am so glad I could help you! :) Please let me know if you end up getting it. :bounce:

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As I said in my last post, probably when pigs fly :))) I can only imagine the price on it, that's assuming it's for sale or if they still have it. I haven't heard back from the store yet, but in Mexico it's always manana manana (tomorrow in the morning!). I'll keep you posted. If it's as much as I fear it's going to be, I'd rather spend the money to get a new monstrance for our church as ours is teeny, tiny and we have all day adoration every Monday. Money better spent for the Lord than for my house :saint2:

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