FutureCarmeliteClaire Posted December 3, 2011 Posted December 3, 2011 lay prostrate on the floor when they take their vows? Sorry, this may seem stupid, but I always assumed they all did for some reason...
Nunsense Posted December 3, 2011 Posted December 3, 2011 (edited) They have in the Solemn Professions I have seen, but not every community may be the same. I particularly love this tradition. I am not sure about all First Professions (temporary ones) Edited December 3, 2011 by nunsense
LaPetiteSoeur Posted December 3, 2011 Posted December 3, 2011 It depends on the order. The Fel.ci.an sister I know told me that looking at the NDs profession pictures reminded her of her profession. They no long lay prostrate. The LSIC don't, usually. I think it just depends on the order!
FutureSister2009 Posted December 3, 2011 Posted December 3, 2011 I like it when they do that. I also like it when they get a crown of flowers but I know not all Orders do that either. I wish they did. And I also wish they all wore Wedding dresses too
Nunsense Posted December 3, 2011 Posted December 3, 2011 [quote name='FutureSister2009' timestamp='1322874891' post='2343831'] I like it when they do that. I also like it when they get a crown of flowers but I know not all Orders do that either. I wish they did. And I also wish they all wore Wedding dresses too [/quote] Well, I am not in the least interested in the wedding dress (probably my age), but I do like the crown of flowers (although thorns would be just as good to me). And I love the wedding ring, which the Carmelites don't do and the Benedictines do. The community I am currently discerning with do all the things I like maybe that's an indicator of a good match? The funny thing is that none of it really matters at all (of course) but symbolism is a strong attractor for humans - we are sensual creatures after all. We are attracted by certain scents and sounds and visuals and repelled by others. Although we all know that that the externals aren't as important as the internals, it doesn't stop us from loving beauty... and after all, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I will just be glad to be able to make Profession, but the externals certainly won't detract from it!
FutureCarmeliteClaire Posted December 3, 2011 Author Posted December 3, 2011 [quote name='nunsense' timestamp='1322875343' post='2343834'] Well, I am not in the least interested in the wedding dress (probably my age), but I do like the crown of flowers (although thorns would be just as good to me). And I love the wedding ring, which the Carmelites don't do and the Benedictines do. The community I am currently discerning with do all the things I like maybe that's an indicator of a good match? The funny thing is that none of it really matters at all (of course) but symbolism is a strong attractor for humans - we are sensual creatures after all. We are attracted by certain scents and sounds and visuals and repelled by others. Although we all know that that the externals aren't as important as the internals, it doesn't stop us from loving beauty... and after all, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I will just be glad to be able to make Profession, but the externals certainly won't detract from it! [/quote] That's wonderful, and thank you all for you answers. I like it when they lay on the floor, I really do, same with wedding dresses. I don't NEED a ring, especially since I may be a Carmelite, and they don't do that anyways.
Guest hermanita Posted December 3, 2011 Posted December 3, 2011 [quote name='FutureCarmeliteClaire' timestamp='1322874387' post='2343827'] lay prostrate on the floor when they take their vows? Sorry, this may seem stupid, but I always assumed they all did for some reason... [/quote] My understanding is that in the Rite of Perpetual Profession, the sisters/brothers to be professed all prostrate during the Litany of the Saints.
Cherie Posted December 3, 2011 Posted December 3, 2011 In my former community, they did not lay prostrate during the actual taking of vows, but during the Mass they lay prostrate on the floor with their scapulars over their heads (instead of the pall, like some communities have) during the chanting of the Litany of the Saints.
Nunsense Posted December 3, 2011 Posted December 3, 2011 [quote name='CherieMadame' timestamp='1322878828' post='2343860'] In my former community, they did not lay prostrate during the actual taking of vows, but during the Mass they lay prostrate on the floor with their scapulars over their heads (instead of the pall, like some communities have) during the chanting of the Litany of the Saints. [/quote] Was that pre Vat 2, CM? Things have probably changed a lot since then.
FutureCarmeliteClaire Posted December 3, 2011 Author Posted December 3, 2011 [quote name='CherieMadame' timestamp='1322878828' post='2343860'] In my former community, they did not lay prostrate during the actual taking of vows, but during the Mass they lay prostrate on the floor with their scapulars over their heads (instead of the pall, like some communities have) during the chanting of the Litany of the Saints. [/quote] I kind of like this, but I really like it either way, as long as I get to lay on the floor.
Nunsense Posted December 3, 2011 Posted December 3, 2011 [quote name='FutureCarmeliteClaire' timestamp='1322879816' post='2343865'] I kind of like this, but I really like it either way, as long as I get to lay on the floor. [/quote]
Cherie Posted December 3, 2011 Posted December 3, 2011 [quote name='nunsense' timestamp='1322879211' post='2343861'] Was that pre Vat 2, CM? Things have probably changed a lot since then. [/quote] No, no ; that was just a few years ago. They still do it that way. I was in religious life from 2003-2008.
OnlySunshine Posted December 3, 2011 Posted December 3, 2011 [quote name='nunsense' timestamp='1322879211' post='2343861'] Was that pre Vat 2, CM? Things have probably changed a lot since then. [/quote] LOL, how old do you think Cherie is?
Nunsense Posted December 3, 2011 Posted December 3, 2011 [quote name='MaterMisericordiae' timestamp='1322885769' post='2343936'] LOL, how old do you think Cherie is? [/quote] From the words of wisdom that she writes, I assumed at least 74 or 75!
Nunsense Posted December 3, 2011 Posted December 3, 2011 [quote name='Lil'Monster' timestamp='1322887194' post='2343951'] hahahahha you people are weird [/quote] I think what you meant to write is "you people are avvesome!"
Lil'Monster Posted December 3, 2011 Posted December 3, 2011 [quote name='nunsense' timestamp='1322887629' post='2343956'] I think what you meant to write is "you people are avvesome!" [/quote] I thought it meant the same thing
Strictlyinkblot Posted December 3, 2011 Posted December 3, 2011 A month ago I was at an ordinary Sunday mass. The priest announced during the sermon that it was the anniversary of his ordination and if we didn't mind he'd like to lie on the floor while we recited the Creed. At first I was a bit nervous for him because he looked quite frail. He was a little shaky getting down on the floor and getting up again but there was something quite powerful about watching Our Priest humbling himself before the altar, tabernacle and the congregation. So, diosecean priests lie on the floor for the Creed and order priests and other religious lie on the floor for the litany of the Saints? (my spelling is rubbish this morning)
FutureCarmeliteClaire Posted December 3, 2011 Author Posted December 3, 2011 [quote name='Strictlyinkblot' timestamp='1322901072' post='2344011'] A month ago I was at an ordinary Sunday mass. The priest announced during the sermon that it was the anniversary of his ordination and if we didn't mind he'd like to lie on the floor while we recited the Creed. At first I was a bit nervous for him because he looked quite frail. He was a little shaky getting down on the floor and getting up again but there was something quite powerful about watching Our Priest humbling himself before the altar, tabernacle and the congregation. So, diosecean priests lie on the floor for the Creed and order priests and other religious lie on the floor for the litany of the Saints? (my spelling is rubbish this morning) [/quote] That is so amazing. Wow, how great of him.
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