Sarah147 Posted January 6, 2012 Posted January 6, 2012 I thought [url="http://www.baltimorecarmel.org/Vocation%20Discernment/discernment%20flow%20chart.htm"]this[/url] was helpful.
Chiquitunga Posted January 7, 2012 Posted January 7, 2012 It says there are three Carmelite associations in the US, but there are four, the fourth being the [url="http://www.carmelitenunsstjoseph.org/"]St. Joseph Association[/url] And there are a handful of good Carmels in no association at all. Just sayin
Indwelling Trinity Posted January 7, 2012 Posted January 7, 2012 Let me see i think they are,.. the CCA, Queen of Carmel Association, St Josephs Association and the Teresian Association... yep.. and like you said the independent Carmels.
vee Posted January 7, 2012 Posted January 7, 2012 Then there are the Order of Preachers who just wish they could be Carmelite.
Indwelling Trinity Posted January 7, 2012 Posted January 7, 2012 Vee stop picking on the Dominicans! Not everyone can look c-o-o-l in brown!
PhuturePriest Posted January 8, 2012 Posted January 8, 2012 [quote name='JoyfulLife' timestamp='1325889964' post='2364153'] I thought [url="http://www.baltimorecarmel.org/Vocation%20Discernment/discernment%20flow%20chart.htm"]this[/url] was helpful. [/quote] I would like to complain about this being heavily biased towards women. Us men like to live in contemplation at Mount Carmel too!
FutureCarmeliteClaire Posted January 8, 2012 Posted January 8, 2012 Can someone tell me how this Carmel is? http://www.carmelofporttobacco.com/index.html
Lisa Posted January 8, 2012 Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) [quote name='FuturePriest387' timestamp='1325985943' post='2364714'] I would like to complain about this being heavily biased towards women. Us men like to live in contemplation at Mount Carmel too! [/quote] *ahem*. It's from Carmelite nuns. That might be why. Edited January 8, 2012 by Lisa
Maximilianus Posted January 8, 2012 Posted January 8, 2012 [quote name='Lisa' timestamp='1325986364' post='2364720'] *ahem*. It's from Carmelite nuns. That might be why. [/quote] Well, to be fair there is no indication in the title that it's exclusively female. Us seasoned vets already assume it's about nuns or sisters, but futurepriest is new.
brandelynmarie Posted January 8, 2012 Posted January 8, 2012 Ok. Carmelite monk link. [url="http://www.carmelitemonks.org/Aboutmonks.html"]http://www.carmelitemonks.org/Aboutmonks.html[/url]
PhuturePriest Posted January 8, 2012 Posted January 8, 2012 [quote name='Maximilianus' timestamp='1326001291' post='2364871'] Well, to be fair there is no indication in the title that it's exclusively female. Us seasoned vets already assume it's about nuns or sisters, but futurepriest is new. [/quote]
truthfinder Posted January 8, 2012 Posted January 8, 2012 For the men, there really aren't too many Carmelites that are more enclosed. That was part of the Discalced reform that the men actually became less eremetical. So if you wanted a more enclosed community, I believe there are really only three communities in the U.S.: Carmelite Hermits: http://www.carmelitehermits.org/ The Carmelite Monks in Wyoming: http://www.carmelitemonks.org/ and Carmelite Hermitage of the Blessed Virgin Mary in Minnesota: http://www.decorcarmeli.com That's it for men, and they all followed the Calced Carmelite Rule. Wyoming and Minnesota are trying to renew the Rite of the Holy Sepulchre for the Mass, I don't know about the Hermits. and FCC, about Port Tobacco. I've heard good things about them. They are different than the common Carmelite nun because they live in hermitages, not cells. Technically closer to the Rule of St. Albert, but not generally practised by the nuns - doesn't mean bad, just different.
PhuturePriest Posted January 8, 2012 Posted January 8, 2012 I knew that it would be most likely female. I'm just trying to follow Saint John of the Cross's example and reform, reform, reform!
Nunsense Posted January 8, 2012 Posted January 8, 2012 [quote name='FuturePriest387' timestamp='1326006256' post='2364899'] I knew that it would be most likely female. I'm just trying to follow Saint John of the Cross's example and reform, reform, reform! [/quote] Ah yes, but he followed a woman's example!
PhuturePriest Posted January 8, 2012 Posted January 8, 2012 [quote name='truthfinder' timestamp='1326006130' post='2364898'] For the men, there really aren't too many Carmelites that are more enclosed. That was part of the Discalced reform that the men actually became less eremetical. So if you wanted a more enclosed community, I believe there are really only three communities in the U.S.: Carmelite Hermits: http://www.carmelitehermits.org/ The Carmelite Monks in Wyoming: http://www.carmelitemonks.org/ and Carmelite Hermitage of the Blessed Virgin Mary in Minnesota: http://www.decorcarmeli.com That's it for men, and they all followed the Calced Carmelite Rule. Wyoming and Minnesota are trying to renew the Rite of the Holy Sepulchre for the Mass, I don't know about the Hermits. and FCC, about Port Tobacco. I've heard good things about them. They are different than the common Carmelite nun because they live in hermitages, not cells. Technically closer to the Rule of St. Albert, but not generally practised by the nuns - doesn't mean bad, just different. [/quote] I'm not much for the Carmelites when it comes to Monks or Friars. I love the Carmelite Nuns, but I don't really like the Monks. Not that I hate them, but I just don't feel any calling to them at all. When it comes down to contemplative life, I prefer the Benedictines. The ones at Snow Mass are amesome. They live a contemplative life while still allowing you to see and contact your family yearly. They can be found at snowmass.com (Or possibly .org). However, I don't get much say because I'm a Franciscan Friar type that likes to preach and help people.
PhuturePriest Posted January 8, 2012 Posted January 8, 2012 [quote name='nunsense' timestamp='1326006338' post='2364901'] Ah yes, but he followed a woman's example! [/quote] Actually, from what I know, they both started to reform the Order without even knowing or hearing about each other. Then after they found out about each other and joined forces.
truthfinder Posted January 8, 2012 Posted January 8, 2012 [quote name='FuturePriest387' timestamp='1326007298' post='2364905'] I'm a Franciscan Friar type that likes to preach and help people. [/quote] Well there are Carmelite Friars - which do come from the Reform. Many of them do preach, such as: http://www.ocdfriarsvocation.org The one's are Snow Mass are Cistercian, so again a reform.
Maximilianus Posted January 8, 2012 Posted January 8, 2012 The Carmelite friars are the norm, Carmelite monks comes from the idea of going back to the days when the Carmelites were hermits. St. John was about to quit the Carmelites and join the Carthusians when St. Teresa convinced him to stay and help her reform the order.
PhuturePriest Posted January 8, 2012 Posted January 8, 2012 [quote name='truthfinder' timestamp='1326007794' post='2364908'] Well there are Carmelite Friars - which do come from the Reform. Many of them do preach, such as: http://www.ocdfriarsvocation.org The one's are Snow Mass are Cistercian, so again a reform. [/quote] I don't like the Friars too much either. For me, it's either be Franciscan, Dominican, or the FSSP. I looked into Mount Carmel, but I ended up liking the Nuns' way of life more, so I dropped the suggestion. It doesn't matter if it's a reform or not. They are Benedictines living in the Cistercian tradition.
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