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PhuturePriest

[quote name='truthfinder' timestamp='1326006130' post='2364898']
For the men, there really aren't too many Carmelites that are more enclosed. That was part of the Discalced reform that the men actually became less eremetical. So if you wanted a more enclosed community, I believe there are really only three communities in the U.S.: Carmelite Hermits: http://www.carmelitehermits.org/
The Carmelite Monks in Wyoming: http://www.carmelitemonks.org/ and Carmelite Hermitage of the Blessed Virgin Mary in Minnesota: http://www.decorcarmeli.com

That's it for men, and they all followed the Calced Carmelite Rule. Wyoming and Minnesota are trying to renew the Rite of the Holy Sepulchre for the Mass, I don't know about the Hermits.

and FCC, about Port Tobacco. I've heard good things about them. They are different than the common Carmelite nun because they live in hermitages, not cells. Technically closer to the Rule of St. Albert, but not generally practised by the nuns - doesn't mean bad, just different.
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I'm not much for the Carmelites when it comes to Monks or Friars. I love the Carmelite Nuns, but I don't really like the Monks. Not that I hate them, but I just don't feel any calling to them at all. When it comes down to contemplative life, I prefer the Benedictines. The ones at Snow Mass are amesome. They live a contemplative life while still allowing you to see and contact your family yearly. They can be found at snowmass.com (Or possibly .org). However, I don't get much say because I'm a Franciscan Friar type that likes to preach and help people. :P

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PhuturePriest

[quote name='nunsense' timestamp='1326006338' post='2364901']


Ah yes, but he followed a woman's example! :P
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Actually, from what I know, they both started to reform the Order without even knowing or hearing about each other. Then after they found out about each other and joined forces. :P

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[quote name='FuturePriest387' timestamp='1326007298' post='2364905']
I'm a Franciscan Friar type that likes to preach and help people. :P
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Well there are Carmelite Friars - which do come from the Reform. Many of them do preach, such as: http://www.ocdfriarsvocation.org

The one's are Snow Mass are Cistercian, so again a reform.

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Maximilianus

The Carmelite friars are the norm, Carmelite monks comes from the idea of going back to the days when the Carmelites were hermits.
St. John was about to quit the Carmelites and join the Carthusians when St. Teresa convinced him to stay and help her reform the order.

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PhuturePriest

[quote name='truthfinder' timestamp='1326007794' post='2364908']

Well there are Carmelite Friars - which do come from the Reform. Many of them do preach, such as: http://www.ocdfriarsvocation.org

The one's are Snow Mass are Cistercian, so again a reform.
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I don't like the Friars too much either. For me, it's either be Franciscan, Dominican, or the FSSP. I looked into Mount Carmel, but I ended up liking the Nuns' way of life more, so I dropped the suggestion. :P

It doesn't matter if it's a reform or not. They are Benedictines living in the Cistercian tradition.

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[quote name='FuturePriest387' timestamp='1326008232' post='2364914']
I ended up liking the Nuns' way of life more, so I dropped the suggestion. :P

It doesn't matter if it's a reform or not. They are Benedictines living in the Cistercian tradition.
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LOL!
There are some amazing Benedictines out there. But the three you've listed are all really good at preaching. I think that the Franciscans are undergoing a necessary renewal in their way of life. There are new communities emerging and the older ones are attracting really good candidates. I don't think I've met a bad OP, and the FSSP are just solid. All the best!

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[quote name='FuturePriest387' timestamp='1326007548' post='2364907']
Actually, from what I know, they both started to reform the Order without even knowing or hearing about each other. Then after they found out about each other and joined forces. :P
[/quote] Not this.
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[quote name='Maximilianus' timestamp='1326008037' post='2364911']
St. John was about to quit the Carmelites and join the Carthusians when St. Teresa convinced him to stay and help her reform the order.
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This :)

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