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We sing the same antiphon at the veiling. In the Spanish and Italian monasteries the nun is prostrate during the singing and the younger nuns cover them with rose petals! [media]http://youtu.be/Kv0

Thank you emmaberry and chiquitunga for the congratulations! Emmaberry-my entrance date is march 19 (tentatively). The community is English-only, even though its roots are Mexican. Hope you have a

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So......you have to remember two things. 

 

1) I entered a community who had very old fashioned practices the whole time I was in the noviciate. Many of these were abandoned later. Rather too many of them IMO, you can end up throwing the baby out with the bath water.

 

2) Humiliation. It is probably a personal thing but I can't say I ever felt much humiliation from carrying out any of the things we did. Our NM never did anything or asked us to do stuff that I perceived as humiliating. 

Stitching the veil............there is a rebelliousness of spirit that sometimes needs to be curbed and doing something that is a little pointless (though many of us learned to stitch quite well on that veil!) can be a good way of bringing that about. Self awareness is important and to sit by Mother afterward and talk about the depth of whatever feeling one had was insightful and interesting. You also need to know the particulars. That veil was kept as a sort of last resort. It also bound us together, since we all understood it's meaning. Seeing someone with that veil in hand, carefully stitching at Rec, made one's heart go out to the novice concerned. There were always a few more prayers for someone who was seen to be struggling a little as evidenced by the appearance of the veil.

 

Detachment. Lots of the stuff we are talking about is/was designed to inculcate a sense of detachment. It isn't something one hears much about these days. I am often amazed by how much store is put on doing things or not doing things based on feelings. Learning to govern one's feelings is extremely important, learning to treat them as only one information set rather than the determinant factor is crucial. Not just in the cloister either.

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Thanks, Maximillion! That answers my question just about perfectly. 

 

I do think detachment is an important virtue for everyone, albeit in a way appropriate for each individual's state in life. Although over the years (and via many different sources---including a lot of personal trial and error) I've come to see that there can be healthy as well as unhealthy ways of growing in detachment, and even in understanding what exactly "detachment" should mean. This is an issue I've been musing on a lot lately, although it's very off-topic to this thread so I'll restrain myself from further thinking aloud here!

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p.s. an interview with a postulant at Zarauz Carmel (1990) Their habits are actually French as they trace their history to being the relocated Bordeaux Carmel. here we were talking about this a couple years ago. they used to have a blog with some pictures, but it's not up anymore.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIX9PimtCII

 

 

also, the one Orans posted about in the other thread, the nuns singing to her on her clothing day

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7K-3XDmlS18

 

 

another vocation for Zarautz Carmel, great!

 

http://www.diariodenavarra.es/noticias/navarra/mas_navarra/2014/08/04/pamplonesa_carolina_martinez_ingresa_carmelitas_zarautz_170118_2061.html

 

http://www.diariovasco.com/costa-urola/201408/03/carolina-martinez-ingresa-como-20140803020152.html

 

 

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also, this one from last year I already posted, but not this version of an interview with her, https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=es&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.teinteresa.es%2Freligion%2Fenfermera-monja-clausura-Carmelitas-descalzas_0_926907746.html&edit-text=&act=url

 

sorry, I'm just really happy when I see young European vocations, especially to Carmels in Spain! I was once talking with a local priest from Peru a few years ago and he was saying how many of Spain's Carmels now are getting their vocations from Latin America. I've seen several cases of that, like the recent foundation from Peru to Spain, and the Rubio, Venezuela Carmel sending nuns to Spain. so yeah, it's always great to hear of the local vocations :pray:

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alright, one more post here for tonight! :tomato:

 

in case anyone didn't see it, this was posted on Fb (yeah, I know a little surprising! but they are mostly hidden) a couple weeks with the following article, http://www.lincolndiocese.org/op-ed/bishop-s-column/2400-the-joy-of-religious-life-and-the-joy-of-christ

 

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alright, one more post here for tonight! :tomato:

 

in case anyone didn't see it, this was posted on Fb (yeah, I know a little surprising! but they are mostly hidden) a couple weeks with the following article, http://www.lincolndiocese.org/op-ed/bishop-s-column/2400-the-joy-of-religious-life-and-the-joy-of-christ

 

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This excerpt from the article was so beautiful: "After the Bishop blesses the veil, the nuns chant these ancient words in Latin: “I love Christ, into whose chambers I shall enter, whose Mother is a virgin, whose Father knows not woman, whose music and melody are sweet to my ears. When I love Him, I remain chaste. When I touch Him I remain pure. When I possess him I remain a virgin. With His ring my Lord Jesus Christ has betrothed me, and he as adorned me with the bridal crown.”"

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This excerpt from the article was so beautiful: "After the Bishop blesses the veil, the nuns chant these ancient words in Latin: “I love Christ, into whose chambers I shall enter, whose Mother is a virgin, whose Father knows not woman, whose music and melody are sweet to my ears. When I love Him, I remain chaste. When I touch Him I remain pure. When I possess him I remain a virgin. With His ring my Lord Jesus Christ has betrothed me, and he as adorned me with the bridal crown.”"

 

the Amo Christum :heart: https://itunes.apple.com/ng/album/women-in-chant/id41445867

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This excerpt from the article was so beautiful: "After the Bishop blesses the veil, the nuns chant these ancient words in Latin: “I love Christ, into whose chambers I shall enter, whose Mother is a virgin, whose Father knows not woman, whose music and melody are sweet to my ears. When I love Him, I remain chaste. When I touch Him I remain pure. When I possess him I remain a virgin. With His ring my Lord Jesus Christ has betrothed me, and he as adorned me with the bridal crown.”"

 

So Beautiful! :cupid:

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