DaughterOfMary Posted August 12, 2012 Posted August 12, 2012 Are the only legitimate Tridentine Carmels Valpareiso and Elysburg? Is there also one in Wisconson? What about the one in the UK?
HopefulBride Posted August 12, 2012 Posted August 12, 2012 I believe there is one in Texas from what I heard, and there is also one in California.
beatitude Posted August 12, 2012 Posted August 12, 2012 The only exclusively EF sisters that I know in the UK are the contemplative Franciscan Sisters of the Immaculate down at Lanherne. I don't think there are any Carmels in the UK that have it on a regular basis. The UK's most traditional Carmel is probably Sheffield, but to my knowledge they have Mass in the ordinary form. I don't know whether this is out of preference or due to the unavailability of priests who are able and willing to celebrate Mass in the EF.
DaughterOfMary Posted August 12, 2012 Author Posted August 12, 2012 I ask because I have gained a sudden pang of interest and desire. The Valpareiso and Elysburg Carmels are over their capacity with nuns and I have a feeling they will stop taking women soon. I cannot apply for a couple of more years due to a health concern.
DaughterOfMary Posted August 12, 2012 Author Posted August 12, 2012 Ok thanks for letting me know. The Californian Carmelites are apparently not in Communion with Rome I have been told. I looked up the Texas Carmelites but it didn't say anything about the Latin Mass
AnneLine Posted August 12, 2012 Posted August 12, 2012 California is a big place, and there are several traditional communities that are VERY MUCH in union with Rome in California. Can you give us a location? Cristo Rey is traditional, and has both forms; the in-process-of-being-founded-by-Valparaiso Carmel in Moraga will be traditional (not sure but probably only EF), and there are several Carmels in th elower part of the state that are full habited (but not sure about mass preferences/options). Additionally.... a gentle suggestion.... when God is ready for you, the right place will open. Just be at peace and see what God has in plan for you....
DaughterOfMary Posted August 12, 2012 Author Posted August 12, 2012 AnneLine- yes youre very right. Patience is the key. I just wanted to investigate due to curiosity. I just want to do whatever God wills for me and I'm willing to do whatever that may be. Thank you all for the replies. Ps- I'm willing to go anywhere if I'm being called. I am particularly desiring to be a Carmelite. And I am interested to consider if I have a vocation, whether it's to a Carmel that celebrates the Latin Mass.
OnlySunshine Posted August 12, 2012 Posted August 12, 2012 [quote name='DaughterOfMary' timestamp='1344802372' post='2466549'] AnneLine- yes youre very right. Patience is the key. I just wanted to investigate due to curiosity. I just want to do whatever God wills for me and I'm willing to do whatever that may be. Thank you all for the replies. Ps- I'm willing to go anywhere if I'm being called. I am particularly desiring to be a Carmelite. And I am interested to consider if I have a vocation, whether it's to a Carmel that celebrates the Latin Mass. [/quote] Valparaiso is running over with vocations. They established a monastery in Elysburg, PA in 2009 and now have a foundation in Oakland, CA. I'm not sure if Oakland is accepting vocations at present since they are brand new, but it's worth looking into if you feel called to such a life.
DaughterOfMary Posted August 12, 2012 Author Posted August 12, 2012 Thanks so much for letting me know about the Oakland Carmel. We'll see how this all pans out over time, but I'm very happy to see they are expanding
EmilyAnn Posted August 12, 2012 Posted August 12, 2012 If you're looking for EF but willing to look other than Carmel you could look at the [url="http://benedictinesofmary.org/"]Benedictines of Mary[/url].
DaughterOfMary Posted August 12, 2012 Author Posted August 12, 2012 Thanks but I'm pretty set on my desire to be a Carmelite. I did think about other Orders but it didn't feel right for me. When I first desired to become a nun when I was 19 , it was to be a Carmelite. Also I love their spirituality and their Saints and my patron is St Therese.
Nunsense Posted August 12, 2012 Posted August 12, 2012 (edited) [quote name='beatitude' timestamp='1344800772' post='2466539'] The only exclusively EF sisters that I know in the UK are the contemplative Franciscan Sisters of the Immaculate down at Lanherne. I don't think there are any Carmels in the UK that have it on a regular basis. The UK's most traditional Carmel is probably Sheffield, but to my knowledge they have Mass in the ordinary form. I don't know whether this is out of preference or due to the unavailability of priests who are able and willing to celebrate Mass in the EF. [/quote] Kirk Edge has Novus Ordo and they rely on the Diocese to provide them with a priest so they have different ones all the time. St Helen's is also a 1990 Carmel in the UK (traditional) but none of the UK Carmels have the Latin Mass. Wolverhampton is very traditional for a 1991 Carmel, probably one of the more traditional ones, as they have the full traditional habit and still refer to the Prioress as Mother, whereas many of the others call the Superior Sister and/or wear a more modified habit. Wolverhampton has their own Chaplain. The current one sings most of the Mass (in English) but he is leaving next week and there will be a new one (who used to be secretary to the Archbishop) but I haven't heard him celebrate Mass yet so I don't know how he does it (although it will be in English). Edited August 12, 2012 by nunsense
ACS67 Posted August 12, 2012 Posted August 12, 2012 (edited) I have been told that the Carmelites in Des Plaines, IL are very orthodox. I believe they have the Latin Mass said there once a month. Edited August 12, 2012 by ACS67
EmilyAnn Posted August 13, 2012 Posted August 13, 2012 [quote name='DaughterOfMary' timestamp='1344806278' post='2466567'] Thanks but I'm pretty set on my desire to be a Carmelite. I did think about other Orders but it didn't feel right for me. When I first desired to become a nun when I was 19 , it was to be a Carmelite. Also I love their spirituality and their Saints and my patron is St Therese. [/quote] It's funny how sometimes you just [i]know [/i]your spirituality. I was the same with the Benedictines.
dymphnamaria Posted August 13, 2012 Posted August 13, 2012 [quote name='DaughterOfMary' timestamp='1344806278' post='2466567'] Thanks but I'm pretty set on my desire to be a Carmelite. I did think about other Orders but it didn't feel right for me. When I first desired to become a nun when I was 19 , it was to be a Carmelite. Also I love their spirituality and their Saints and my patron is St Therese. [/quote] That was also my thought, to be a Carmelite. But it seems it's not the order for me. It's good to be open to different orders. I became to love the Franciscan spirituality.
DaughterOfMary Posted August 13, 2012 Author Posted August 13, 2012 It's interesting because the way I see it is , if you can see yourself living that charism and spirituality for the rest of your life , it's most likely where you are being called. Though I still don't know if I'm being called 100% at this point in time due to a health impediment, but my desire is there. And I believe if it's Gods will, it will happen eventually.
OnlySunshine Posted August 13, 2012 Posted August 13, 2012 [quote name='EmilyAnn' timestamp='1344816983' post='2466624'] It's funny how sometimes you just [i]know [/i]your spirituality. I was the same with the Benedictines. [/quote] [quote name='dymphnamaria' timestamp='1344817567' post='2466632'] That was also my thought, to be a Carmelite. But it seems it's not the order for me. It's good to be open to different orders. I became to love the Franciscan spirituality. [/quote] When I first started discerning, I thought I was 100% certain that I was called to be a Carmelite. Then, I fell in love with the Franciscans. Then the Dominicans. I'm currently discerning with an order that is not part of any of those spiritualities. They are very focused on the Eucharist and are Trinitarian.
dymphnamaria Posted August 13, 2012 Posted August 13, 2012 [quote name='DaughterOfMary' timestamp='1344817892' post='2466636'] It's interesting because the way I see it is , if you can see yourself living that charism and spirituality for the rest of your life , it's most likely where you are being called. Though I still don't know if I'm being called 100% at this point in time due to a health impediment, but my desire is there. And I believe if it's Gods will, it will happen eventually. [/quote] Continue to pray for your vocation.. As I am also keeping you in my prayers. Please also include me in you prayers.
dymphnamaria Posted August 13, 2012 Posted August 13, 2012 [quote name='MaterMisericordiae' timestamp='1344818219' post='2466639'] When I first started discerning, I thought I was 100% certain that I was called to be a Carmelite. Then, I fell in love with the Franciscans. Then the Dominicans. I'm currently discerning with an order that is not part of any of those spiritualities. They are very focused on the Eucharist and are Trinitarian. [/quote]
DaughterOfMary Posted August 13, 2012 Author Posted August 13, 2012 [quote name='dymphnamaria' timestamp='1344818639' post='2466645'] Continue to pray for your vocation.. As I am also keeping you in my prayers. Please also include me in you prayers.[/quote] Yes I sure will pray for you !!! thankyou for praying for me too !!! God bless you +++
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