Has Anyone Actually Been To A Clown Mass?

[franciscanheart]

[quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1345583660' post='2471434']
I am willing to argue that Canedo and Hurd's Mass of Glory is objectively inappropriate for Mass, though I am not willing to do so in this thread.
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Congratulations?

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='franciscanheart' timestamp='1345583715' post='2471435']
Congratulations?
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I do not really see why you felt the need to say that.

[Lil Red]

so choirs and organists need to be skilled enough to play what we want them to, but they'd better not do it where the appropriate equipment is or when is most convenient for all choir members & the organist involved. check.

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='Lil Red' timestamp='1345584221' post='2471441']
so choirs and organists need to be skilled enough to play what we want them to, but they'd better not do it where the appropriate equipment is or when is most convenient for all choir members & the organist involved. check.
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I would settle with them being skilled enough to play what the Church wants them to.

[cmaD2006]

[quote name='Groo the Wanderer' timestamp='1345520237' post='2471062']
The Spanish Masses sound like a Tijuana bar.
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Thanks Groo. Now, I'm on my way to the "Tijuana bar" (aka Mass).

BTW this particular Mass does not have a musician -- why? There's a shortage.

Edited August 21, 2012 by cmariadiaz

[Lil Red]

[quote name='cmariadiaz' timestamp='1345584748' post='2471461']BTW this particular Mass does not have a musician -- why? There's a shortage.[/quote]

no wonder when it doesn't sound like many people have any gratitude for the hours of practice and hard work that most choir members/cantors/organists put in.

[BG45]

There was no Prison Mass this month due to a sort of shortage on the music end. The reason was the entire choir and cantor were on vacation that week. I was told if I wanted to jump through some hoops and hurdles and paperwork with the diocese, I could cantor it myself. I told them I'd see them in September.

[quote name='franciscanheart' timestamp='1345583175' post='2471421']
I've never encountered a choir that rehearsed in the main sanctuary right up until the opening bell / introit / opening hymn. Perhaps I have simply been blessed in my experiences, [b]but I'm willing to bet that even the most dimwitted directors know better than to clamor on right up until Mass time[/b].
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Then you'd bet wrong, because my parish does practice the entire hour before Mass until two minutes before.

So yep, definitely a case of being blessed.

[franciscanheart]

[quote name='BG45' timestamp='1345585676' post='2471473']
Then you'd bet wrong, because my parish does practice the entire hour before Mass until two minutes before.

So yep, definitely a case of being blessed.
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You totally edited.


I know I am blest with a fabulous parish.

[Lil Red]

[quote name='BG45' timestamp='1345585676' post='2471473']
Then you'd bet wrong, because my parish does practice the entire hour before Mass until two minutes before.

So yep, definitely a case of being blessed.
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and do they have time during the week to practice, or is this pretty much their only time to practice [b]as a group[/b] in the church?

[BG45]

That depends on the technicality of the edit feature I realized the latter part might sound a bit cranky, so I posted again real quick to assure it wasn't meant that way and the board auto-added it to the post. It does that within 10-20 seconds I've noticed!

And yep you are! Wish our cantor, as much as I usually love her, would take a note from your all's book. Though on the issue of overworked and stressed cantors and musicians; she had to work so many Masses around Easter two years ago due to people not being able to make it that she had no voice by Vigil.

[quote name='Lil Red' timestamp='1345585827' post='2471477']
and do they have time during the week to practice, or is this pretty much their only time to practice [b]as a group[/b] in the church?
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They do practice during the week, I've seen them all in the parish before of an evening doing so.

[franciscanheart]

[quote name='BG45' timestamp='1345585947' post='2471478']
And yep you are! Wish our cantor, as much as I usually love her, would take a note from your all's book. Though on the issue of overworked and stressed cantors and musicians; she had to work so many Masses around Easter two years ago due to people not being able to make it that she had no voice by Vigil.
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So it's just one person rehearsing right up until Mass time? I'd much prefer a prepared musician over absolute silence leading up to Mass and terrible music.

[BG45]

[quote name='franciscanheart' timestamp='1345586015' post='2471479']
So it's just one person rehearsing right up until Mass time? I'd much prefer a prepared musician over absolute silence leading up to Mass and terrible music.
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No no. The choir as a whole, plus musicians, rehearse up until Mass time. Sorry I phrased it badly, that was just a bad week. People getting sick, or being out of town to have Easter with their families, and she was left pretty much alone and really paid for it voice wise. And I'd not disagree, I'd prefer the prepared musician overall too; besides, there's so much talking before Mass there would never be absolute silence.

[homeschoolmom]

[quote name='Nihil Obstat' timestamp='1345581933' post='2471406']
Yep, sacrifices have to be made to have nice things like perpetual adoration.
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Yes. And when the noise starts to bother me, I remind myself that the 3 am slot is open and it's probably fairly quiet then. Then I'm not so bothered at all by the noise.  

[Lil Red]

[quote name='BG45' timestamp='1345586322' post='2471486']
No no. The choir as a whole, plus musicians, rehearse up until Mass time. Sorry I phrased it badly, that was just a bad week. People getting sick, or being out of town to have Easter with their families, and she was left pretty much alone and really paid for it voice wise. And I'd not disagree, I'd prefer the prepared musician overall too; besides, there's so much talking before Mass there would never be absolute silence.
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i'd rather listen to musicians practicing before Mass than listening to people talking.

edit: i realize that people are still probably talking anyway, but i'd think the music probably helps drown them out a bit, eh?

Edited August 21, 2012 by Lil Red

[cmaD2006]

[quote name='Lil Red' timestamp='1345585514' post='2471470']
no wonder when it doesn't sound like many people have any gratitude for the hours of practice and hard work that most choir members/cantors/organists/[b]guitarists[/b] put in.
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fixed

[Lil Red]

[quote name='cmariadiaz' timestamp='1345586615' post='2471490']
fixed
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ain't touching that one

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='homeschoolmom' timestamp='1345586402' post='2471487']
Yes. And when the noise starts to bother me, I remind myself that the 3 am slot is open and it's probably fairly quiet then. Then I'm not so bothered at all by the noise.
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I would like to try one of those graveyard shifts sometime. It is not really an option at the moment for me, but not too far in the future I may be able to give it a try.

[cmaD2006]

[quote name='Lil Red' timestamp='1345586697' post='2471491']
ain't touching that one
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I love ya Lil Red

Edited August 21, 2012 by cmariadiaz

[EmilyAnn]

My parish doesn't have so much of a problem of people talking before Mass as people talking after Mass. The doorway is quite narrow so when everyone tries to leave at once, then people trying to give back their hymnals and get the newsletter from Sister, it gets kind of clogged up. So people tend to chat as they're trying to get out of the door. It is quite frustrating, because they have coffee and stuff in the hall after Mass (I've never been) so sometimes I'm just thinking "Go have your conversation in the hall! It can wait a few minutes!"

[OnlySunshine]

[quote name='franciscanheart' timestamp='1345577072' post='2471363']
Clearly you've never been in a church choir.
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Actually I've been in the one that I'm talking about and another one.

Edited August 21, 2012 by MaterMisericordiae