Voting For A 3rd Party Is Voting For Obama.

[MIKolbe]

[quote name='Freedom' timestamp='1351273835' post='2497999']
I have no idea what you don't agree with [/quote]

I just don't understand.. please help me with my question below

[quote]
So of you are a registered republican, and you vote 3rd party, your vote is minus-ed from your actual vote and added to the democratic candidate's tally?

Is that even legal?

And if you are a democrat, unless you vote republican, your vote goes to the democratic candidate?

How, in the world of arithmetic, does this happen? And why do only those republicans get such a bad shake?

And what happens to your third party vote is you are an independent? If an independent votes for the republican, where does his vote go?
[/quote]

[Anomaly]

Freedom, relax. Part of it they are looking at the wording of the Thread Title in a literal sense. Voting for a 3rd party is not voting FOR Obama, and with the electorate system, in many states it's not close enough to make a difference. In the clearest words, there are lot's of qualifications about the idea of not voting for the only likely challenger (Romney) will help Obama. Florida, Ohio, PA, New Hampshire, Colorado, Iowa, etc. are the close 'swing' States. In those states, smaller trends in voting have the possibility of making a bigger difference.

Most posters are pointing out that technically, their 1 vote makes little difference. It's their influence on others, talking among friends, that they can make a difference. Arguments on the internet never results in someone winning, especially in politics and religion.

[Freedom]

Whatever votes taken away from Romney, could end up with Obama winning a second term. Do you purposely refuse to understand this simple fact?

[MIKolbe]

when I am in the voting booth... I can take away votes?

I thought I only cast my own vote in the booth?

[Freedom]

Please watch the video about what a 3rd party can accomplish, for more information and if you have time, read his blogs as well.

[Freedom]

"No one is dumber than those who refuse to understand." This is an old French proverb, it says it all, no need to add anything.

[PhuturePriest]

[quote name='Freedom' timestamp='1351275260' post='2498016']
"No one is dumber than those who refuse to understand." This is an old French proverb, it says it all, no need to add anything.
[/quote]

Freedom, we fully understand what you mean. The less votes Romney has from us, the better chance Obama has for being elected. However, voting for a 3rd party candidate is NOT voting for Obama. It doesn't mean we are secretly liberal and have liberal souls as you yourself said. It means we are voting by our conscience, just as you are voting by your conscience. We're not doing anything against the Church, so why is it such a big deal for you?

[Winchester]

[quote name='Freedom' timestamp='1351273835' post='2497999']
I know who I'm voting for and I know who is best for this country and for the Catholic church, Mitt Romney.

[/quote]
Romney is running for president. Since he supports a strong Federal government, it's likely he will be bad for your country.

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='Freedom' timestamp='1351273835' post='2497999']
I have no idea what you don't agree with but in my so called "childish" mind, I thought I made myself beyond clear. If you don't want to understand, it's your choice. At least [b]MY[/b] convictions are set in stone, unlike yours.
[/quote]

Just out of curiosity, how much do you know about the 'convictions' of anyone in this thread?
"Liberal" will not be accepted here as a valid answer.

[Freedom]

This election is all about voting against Obama and the only one who can do that is Mitt Romney. You want to ignore that, then know that you are wrong. As simple as that.

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='Freedom' timestamp='1351281138' post='2498064']
This election is all about voting against Obama and the only one who can do that is Mitt Romney. You want to ignore that, then know that you are wrong. As simple as that.
[/quote]
I have this weird, apparently radical idea that political processes, broadly speaking, should be used to actually make positive change, to protect freedom and promote justice and morality.

Funny how we are approaching this differently.

[Freedom]

I think you should change your name to Obama Militant... You are certainly not the church's.

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='Freedom' timestamp='1351281604' post='2498071']
I think you should change your name to Obama Militant... You are certainly not the church's.
[/quote]
Wrong again, my strange friend.

[img]http://agoratelegraph.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/murray-rothbard-enemy-state.jpg[/img]

But hey, if we want to go down that route, I suggest a competition. Let us both find a nice spiffy altar, then we will both stand in front of it and recite our favourite prayers. The winner is the one who looks most pious and devout.
The winner will be entitled to say:
O God, I give thee thanks that I am not as the rest of men, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, as also is this publican. I fast twice in a week: I give tithes of all that I possess.

[Freedom]

God is the truth and the light. I'm afraid you need both, I'll pray for you.

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='Freedom' timestamp='1351282387' post='2498081']
God is the truth and the light. I'm afraid you need both, I'll pray for you.
[/quote]
Do not forget to thank God that you are much more pious than I am.

[Freedom]

Again, I'll pray for you to see the truth and the light, no matter how blind you are right now.

[Vincent Vega]

[quote name='Freedom' timestamp='1351273835' post='2497999'] I know who I'm voting for and I know who is best for this country and for the Catholic church, Mitt Romney.
[/quote]
Wait, so are you voting because you think Obama is terrible (which I agree with) or because Romney is great (which I do not agree with)? Because earlier in the thread the cut of your gib was different. Talk about waffling convictions.
I'd bet dollars to donuts that if we had asked you a year ago who would be best for this country, Santorum (or insert other more socially conservative candidate here) or Romney, you would have talked about what a liberal Romney is (and I wouldn't have disagreed).

[quote name='Freedom' timestamp='1351281604' post='2498071']
I think you should change your name to Obama Militant... You are certainly not the church's.
[/quote]
Yeah, everyone else here are the ad hominem masters. lol

[Nihil Obstat]

[quote name='Freedom' timestamp='1351282574' post='2498084']
Again, I'll pray for you to see the truth and the light, no matter how blind you are right now.
[/quote]

You need to chill out a bit, dude. Kick back and watch some K-pop with me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7mPqycQ0tQ

[Aloysius]

Freedom, the type of conflation of politics with religion I'm witnessing you display here is poisonous and evil. to accuse people of not being okay with God or the Church because they don't want to support your political candidate... that is evil and it's a sin against our common Catholic Faith. Accuse us of being wrong or stupid or not pragmatic enough, fine, you have the right to that opinion; but calling into question our Catholicism because we don't support Mitt Romney? I would kindly ask you to retract those types of statements and apologize.

[Lil Red]

[quote name='Aloysius' timestamp='1351283114' post='2498093']
Freedom, the type of conflation of politics with religion I'm witnessing you display here is poisonous and evil. to accuse people of not being okay with God or the Church because they don't want to support your political candidate... that is evil and it's a sin against our common Catholic Faith. Accuse us of being wrong or stupid or not pragmatic enough, fine, you have the right to that opinion; but calling into question our Catholicism because we don't support Mitt Romney? I would kindly ask you to retract those types of statements and apologize.
[/quote]

don't hold your breath.