Female Porn Stars Have Higher Self Esteem

[EmilyAnn]

You can make studies say whatever you want if you're smart enough about it.

[BigJon16]

[quote name='kujo' timestamp='1354031246' post='2517689']
Right, because being sexually abused, doing drugs and/or "do[ing] alcohol to escape the pain" necessarily leads one right into the open arms (or legs) of the porn industry.
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It was the porn industry that abused them, and such abuse caused them to lean on drugs and alcohol. When you read the testimonies of former porn models, you can get a bit of insight into actually how abusive the industry can be.





As for the article:

I can make many arguments against the porn industry, and this article does nothing to despute any of them.

In no way does basing a person's self worth on their sex appeal help raise "self esteem." It only works to degrade the persons dignity as a person created in the image and likness of God, a God who loves them abundantly.

They might not realize it. Momentary disires, passions, and pleasures can sometimes mask what is and isnt good for us. They can sometimes mask the truth. It's why so many people, who know in some way that pornography is wrong, can still become or stay addicted to it.

Been there, done that. It ain't good.


Prayers for these people.

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What else is a self-promoting organization like the “Journal of Sex Research by the Adult Industry Medical Healthcare Foundation” An [i][font="Calibri","sans-serif"]organization[/font][/i] or entity whose sole purpose is [i][font="Calibri","sans-serif"]promoting[/font][/i] its own existence and splendor, going to say?

I find the story rather hard to swallow (no pun intended).

[kujo]

[quote name='BigJon16' timestamp='1354034719' post='2517702']
When you read [s]the[/s] [size=4][color=#FF0000][b]some[/b][/color][/size] testimonies of [size=4][color=#FF0000][b]some [/b][/color][/size]former porn models, you can get a bit of insight into actually how abusive the industry can be.
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Edited November 27, 2012 by kujo

[Jesus_lol]

Yeah people at least be consistent. If you can trust the words of some porn stars who say their life smells of elderberries, then by the same measure you should trust the ones who say it doesnt.

unless you actually believe that porn stars are only lying when their experience doesnt match up with what you have in mind.

[Winchester]

[quote name='kujo' timestamp='1354037097' post='2517710']
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Much more accurate than your first outburst.

I did like the acting in the movie you were in.

[Winchester]

[quote name='EmilyAnn' timestamp='1354034400' post='2517701']
You can make studies say whatever you want if you're smart enough about it.
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Or if you're charming.

[MissyP89]

In some sense, there's truth here ... there's a certain confidence and excitement that comes with knowing you're wanted and desirable, etc.

It's misguided, yes, and very far from what actual self-worth entails, but twisted self-esteem is still self-esteem.

[Winchester]

The real problem is high heels. That's where it all starts.

[Lil Red]

[quote name='Winchester' timestamp='1354044695' post='2517766']
The real problem is high heels. That's where it all starts.
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SHUT IT!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCrT96QJBfQ

[OnlySunshine]

[quote name='kujo' timestamp='1354031246' post='2517689']

Right, because being sexually abused, doing drugs and/or "do[ing] alcohol to escape the pain" necessarily leads one right into the open arms (or legs) of the porn industry.
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Way to twist my words around. That's not what I said at all.

[Tony]

In other news.. burgers have a better conscience than other people.

[MIKolbe]

with or without cheese?

[beatitude]

[quote name='kujo' timestamp='1354037097' post='2517710']
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Central to mainstream pornography is the sexualisation of rape and violence against women, very thoroughly explored by Andrea Dworkin. Porn is simply a plank of rape culture, and for every 'high class' female porn star out there who gets to name her own terms and may feel empowered by her lifestyle, there are hundreds of women who are eking out a precarious existence. Even those who 'feel' empowered by it are contributing to a culture that is fundamentally damaging and woman-hating. The few privileges they get from their participation in porn are achieved at the expense of less-privileged women.

I am part of a group of radical feminists, most of whom view my religion as inherently patriarchal and have no time whatsoever for it. One thing we can all agree on is the damage caused by porn to the women's liberation movement, especially by the so-called 'sex-positive' third-wave feminists who have bought into the idea that being a porn star can be a positive free choice - usually as a way of making their feminism more palatable to men. "I may be a feminist, but I'm not one of those nasty ugly ones who oppose all the fun stuff!" That's basically what attempts to package porn as a legitimate profession amount to.

Edited November 27, 2012 by beatitude

[Ash Wednesday]

I was going to post something, but now I don't feel like it. So here is a picture of Tard the Cat.

[img]http://cdn.inquisitr.com/wp-content/2012/09/Grumpy-Cat-Tadar-Sauce.jpg[/img]

Edited November 27, 2012 by Ash Wednesday

[4588686]

[quote name='Ash Wednesday' timestamp='1354050670' post='2517851']
I was going to post something, but now I don't feel like it. So here is a picture of Tard the Cat.

[img]http://cdn.inquisitr.com/wp-content/2012/09/Grumpy-Cat-Tadar-Sauce.jpg[/img]
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Probably used up and thrown away. I know a woman who worked at Wal-Mart for 19+ years. She was fired very shortly before her retirement came. Now's she's back working minimum wage as a temp worked at another corporation. She also feels pretty used up and thrown away.

Pornography isn't a problem. Nor is it a feminist issue. But the circumstances that lead men and women into pornography so they can be used up and thrown away once they start to sag a bit is an immense injustice. And the treatment of women within the porn industry is a serious feminist issue.

[4588686]

[quote name='beatitude' timestamp='1354047722' post='2517824']
Central to mainstream pornography is the sexualisation of rape and violence against women, very thoroughly explored by Andrea Dworkin. Porn is simply a plank of rape culture, and for every 'high class' female porn star out there who gets to name her own terms and may feel empowered by her lifestyle, there are hundreds of women who are eking out a precarious existence. Even those who 'feel' empowered by it are contributing to a culture that is fundamentally damaging and woman-hating. The few privileges they get from their participation in porn are achieved at the expense of less-privileged women.

I am part of a group of radical feminists, most of whom view my religion as inherently patriarchal and have no time whatsoever for it. One thing we can all agree on is the damage caused by porn to the women's liberation movement, especially by the so-called 'sex-positive' third-wave feminists who have bought into the idea that being a porn star can be a positive free choice - usually as a way of making their feminism more palatable to men. "I may be a feminist, but I'm not one of those nasty ugly ones who oppose all the fun stuff!" That's basically what attempts to package porn as a legitimate profession amount to.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOZLdw6n2L4

[4588686]

So all in all, I agree. Let's abolish wage labor thereby ensuring that only healthy forms of pornography are permitted to exist.


In all seriousness though, I agree that a lot of the porn industry is sick. However I find it hard to take the right-wing outrage over pornography seriously. If you want to combat pornography then combat the economic conditions that give rise to pornography. Otherwise you're just wasting time because picketing and complaining about it on the internet isn't going to do anything to make a multi-billion dollar industry curb its excesses.

[jazzytakara]

From what I understand, they are only as happy with themselves as they are told by those in the porn industry, also a huge factor involves what family and friends think. Most women literally tear themselves a part performing in the adult industry, and physical appearance is key more so in this industry than in the rest of Hollywood. So women are victimized physically and if they fail to perform they are tossed aside. If their films ruin their lives outside of the pornography industry, there is no one who can help them. And if they don't have the look necessary to succeed in the industry they either have to make drastic physical changes, face ridicule, and be once again tossed aside. Its an incredibly shallow and former producers/directors/etc. of the pornography industry feel incredibly guilty for their part in it, as the job is basically to tear women down for the sake of entertainment and pleasure. I have a cousin involved in porn, and she is happy with it, her family accepts it and approves of her job, but at the end of the day you have to wonder, how satisfying can a job that only values your physical attributes really be. If she gains weight, or begins to show signs of age, her career options are incredibly limited.She won't feel great then when all the glamour disappears, and for that I feel sorry for her and wish she would find a way out before she is tossed out.

[4588686]

[quote name='jazzytakara' timestamp='1354052237' post='2517863']
From what I understand, they are only as happy with themselves as they are told by those in the porn industry, also a huge factor involves what family and friends think. Most women literally tear themselves a part performing in the adult industry, and physical appearance is key more so in this industry than in the rest of Hollywood. So women are victimized physically and if they fail to perform they are tossed aside. If their films ruin their lives outside of the pornography industry, there is no one who can help them. And if they don't have the look necessary to succeed in the industry they either have to make drastic physical changes, face ridicule, and be once again tossed aside. Its an incredibly shallow and former producers/directors/etc. of the pornography industry feel incredibly guilty for their part in it, as the job is basically to tear women down for the sake of entertainment and pleasure. I have a cousin involved in porn, and she is happy with it, her family accepts it and approves of her job, but at the end of the day you have to wonder, how satisfying can a job that only values your physical attributes really be. If she gains weight, or begins to show signs of age, her career options are incredibly limited.She won't feel great then when all the glamour disappears, and for that I feel sorry for her and wish she would find a way out before she is tossed out.
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Most of what you said could be applied to anyone working at a dead-end retail job.

Some women work in porn and enjoy it. Some women are strippers and enjoy it. There isn't anything wrong with porn in itself. But the porn industry is as ruthless and degrading as any other set of corporations in an unregulated capitalist system.

One thing that could help these women? Strong union representation. Or maybe government restrictions on the number of sexual acts they can be forced to perform in a day. Or maybe a better welfare system so young women without family support and decent education don't have the sell the only commodity they possess, their good looks, in order to get a roof over their heads. Or maybe an economic system wherein people aren't treated like commodities in the first place.

Edited November 27, 2012 by Hasan