Female Porn Stars Have Higher Self Esteem

[beatitude]

I've read the study. My liberal feminist housemate showed it to me yesterday. Very triumphantly. (I'm using 'liberal feminist' in the sense of an actual school of feminist thought, not as a pejorative - I feel like I have to clarify that on this phorum. ;)  ) Some lib fems oppose porn, but others are OK with it, while rad fems are unequivocally against. She and I have argued about this in the past.

 

Methodologically it has two major flaws. Firstly the participants were all recruited from a medical clinic providing healthcare to people in the sex industry. They were encouraged to sign up by the receptionists when they came for appointments. My first question here would be how many porn actresses have access to that kind of specialist healthcare and how many use it regularly. It would seem that the women who took part in this study have the motivation, the knowledge, and the money to care for themselves. Is this a representative sample of women used by this industry? If not, this has serious implications for the research findings.

 

Secondly, the researchers used one single question to determine whether childhood sexual abuse had taken place: "Did you experience child sexual abuse?" Women in both groups (including the controls) are going to underreport. It's inevitable. I'm not overly concerned about that, because I don't think that trying to prove that porn stars do or don't experience a higher level of childhood sexual abuse than other women is particularly important - such info is only going to be used to shore up ideological positions on porn, and not to help the women involved. But findings apart, the researchers' methods are not what they could be.

 

(I said all this to my housemate, who thinks I am just a typical radfem hardliner. It's a wonder we manage to coexist under the same roof at times. Our male housemate went to hide.)

Edited November 28, 2012 by beatitude

[Marie-Therese]

For anyone who wants to read the actual study:  http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00224499.2012.719168

 

 

[4588686]

I've read the study. My liberal feminist housemate showed it to me yesterday. Very triumphantly. (I'm using 'liberal feminist' in the sense of an actual school of feminist thought, not as a pejorative - I feel like I have to clarify that on this phorum. ;)  ) Some lib fems oppose porn, but others are OK with it, while rad fems are unequivocally against. She and I have argued about this in the past.

 

Methodologically it has two major flaws. Firstly the participants were all recruited from a medical clinic providing healthcare to people in the sex industry. They were encouraged to sign up by the receptionists when they came for appointments. My first question here would be how many porn actresses have access to that kind of specialist healthcare and how many use it regularly. It would seem that the women who took part in this study have the motivation, the knowledge, and the money to care for themselves. Is this a representative sample of women used by this industry? If not, this has serious implications for the research findings.

 

Secondly, the researchers used one single question to determine whether childhood sexual abuse had taken place: "Did you experience child sexual abuse?" Women in both groups (including the controls) are going to underreport. It's inevitable. I'm not overly concerned about that, because I don't think that trying to prove that porn stars do or don't experience a higher level of childhood sexual abuse than other women is particularly important - such info is only going to be used to shore up ideological positions on porn, and not to help the women involved. But findings apart, the researchers' methods are not what they could be.

 

(I said all this to my housemate, who thinks I am just a typical radfem hardliner. It's a wonder we manage to coexist under the same roof at times. Our male housemate went to hide.)

 

Are radical feminists allowed to be Catholic?   :pinch:

[Winchester]

I'm a radical caninist.

[add]

They might be right. Self-esteem isn't a virtue. Nor is sexual satisfaction (whatever they mean, by that).

Pure Unadulterated BS in the highest order.

[Winchester]

Pure Unadulterated BS in the highest order.

 

 

 

 

Self-esteem and sexual satisfaction are virtues?

[add]

Self-esteem and sexual satisfaction are virtues?

Virtues yes applicable no
Especially the sexual component, aren't those just people acting?
Self-esteem part must be short-lived, everybody gets old and fat, how long can you get by on looks?

[Lil Red]

Virtues yes applicable no
Especially the sexual component, aren't those just people acting?
Self-esteem part must be short-lived, everybody gets old and fat, how long can you get by on looks?

 

 

uh.....

 

vir·tue /ˈvərCHo͞o/ Noun:

1. Behavior showing high moral standards: "paragons of virtue".
2. A quality considered morally good or desirable in a person.

[add]

uh.....
vir·tue /ˈvərCHo͞o/ Noun:

• Behavior showing high moral standards: "paragons of virtue".
  
• A quality considered morally good or desirable in a person.

Will done Miss Red
I stand corrected
< virtue (self-esteem) no> < (sexual satisfaction) applicable no> Edited November 28, 2012 by add

[Winchester]

Virtues yes applicable no
Especially the sexual component, aren't those just people acting?
Self-esteem part must be short-lived, everybody gets old and fat, how long can you get by on looks?

 

 

 

 

No, everybody doesn't. I reckon I'm a short-timer. I can choose to not get fat, and I will probably not be old enough when I die to be really gross looking from age, although whatever kills me might jack me up pretty bad.

[add]

Unlike pronograprhy's fleeting appeal,

The beauty of a woman is not in a facial mode but the true beauty in a woman is reflected in her soul. It is the caring that she lovingly gives the passion that she shows. The beauty of a woman grows with the passing years. -

- Audrey Hepburn

Edited November 29, 2012 by add

[Winchester]

Unlike pronograprhy's fleeting appeal,

The beauty of a woman is not in a facial mode but the true beauty in a woman is reflected in her soul. It is the caring that she lovingly gives the passion that she shows. The beauty of a woman grows with the passing years. -

- Audrey Hepburn

 

 

 

 

[add]

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VM2upSgWj70

 

:angel:

[dUSt]

Here are the self esteem questions asked:

 

I feel that I'm a person of worth, at least on an equal plane with others.
I feel that I have a number of good qualities.
All in all, I am inclined to feel that I am a failure.
I am able to do things as well as most other people.
I feel I do not have much to be proud of.
I take a positive attitude toward myself.
On the whole, I am satisfied with myself.
I wish I could have more respect for myself.
I certainly feel useless at times.
At times I think I am no good at all.

 

Looking at the questions, maybe porn actresses are simply more vain.

[add]

I'm sure porn stars have high self-esteem but I find it difficult to believe that it's Anything more than a fleeting moment in time
While on the other hand good Catholic woman Is not self-centered and Is selfless. Self esteem is of little and no importance to such women.
If I had to choose one or the other, For a companion, Inner beauty wins every time