Knot Wize Posted March 22, 2013 Author Posted March 22, 2013 How does this morally compel someone to fly your flag? Also I can name at least a dozen countries in which I can display whatever flag I want without getting shot. The USA does not have a monopoly on freedom. Lol. Let's try Palestine?
PhuturePriest Posted March 22, 2013 Posted March 22, 2013 Let's try Palestine? So you're going to use an extreme case to prove your point? If Palestine doesn't want people to fly the American flag, that's Palestine's business.
Nihil Obstat Posted March 22, 2013 Posted March 22, 2013 So you're going to use an extreme case to prove your point? If Palestine doesn't want people to fly the American flag, that's Palestine's business. Well, it really is not their business, but that is neither here nor there.
Winchester Posted March 22, 2013 Posted March 22, 2013 Sorry, but the flag code IS law, that what US CODE means.. Yes, you are correct that it is a "law", but there is no violence to back it up. Nor should there be. There's plenty of murder and assault committed in the name of Federal Law, already. Just be happy with the present amount.
Knot Wize Posted March 22, 2013 Author Posted March 22, 2013 Also I fail to see any substantive connection between flying or not flying the flag, and the military. The flag represents the country and the Constitution for which they die for. If they want to be citizens of the Vatican, so be it and move.
PhuturePriest Posted March 22, 2013 Posted March 22, 2013 Well, it really is not their business, but that is neither here nor there. Then where the hell is it?
Knot Wize Posted March 22, 2013 Author Posted March 22, 2013 Yes, you are correct that it is a "law", but there is no violence to back it up. Nor should there be. There's plenty of murder and assault committed in the name of Federal Law, already. Just be happy with the present amount. It is interesting that you suggest violence.. nothing here suggests it.
PhuturePriest Posted March 22, 2013 Posted March 22, 2013 The flag represents the country and the Constitution for which they die for. If they want to be citizens of the Vatican, so be it and move. There's nothing wrong with flying the Vatican flag to proudly show off your Catholicism. I'm a Catholic living in America. Not an American that is Catholic.
Knot Wize Posted March 22, 2013 Author Posted March 22, 2013 So you're going to use an extreme case to prove your point? If Palestine doesn't want people to fly the American flag, that's Palestine's business. But you would get killed there for flying the flag of a foreign country if the government did not agree with it. SImple respect for the country that protects you.
Winchester Posted March 22, 2013 Posted March 22, 2013 It is interesting that you suggest violence.. nothing here suggests it. Are you denying that the Federal government employs violence? The question was put to you whether people should be "compelled" to follow the code. You didn't say "no". How the Hell are you planning on "compelling" people?
PhuturePriest Posted March 22, 2013 Posted March 22, 2013 But you would get killed there for flying the flag of a foreign country if the government did not agree with it. SImple respect for the country that protects you. I fire off explosives on the Fourth of July, I read American history, and I take part in the American legal system. Why do I have to fly a flag in order to respect the Country that protects me? I have no political or patriotic ties here. If the government decides to ship all the Catholics to England, I'll say good riddance. America is the country I live in, not the thing I live and die for.
Knot Wize Posted March 22, 2013 Author Posted March 22, 2013 There's nothing wrong with flying the Vatican flag to proudly show off your Catholicism. I'm a Catholic living in America. Not an American that is Catholic. The Vatican is a country, not just the Roman Catholic Church. Nothing is wrong with proclaiming your faith.
Winchester Posted March 22, 2013 Posted March 22, 2013 But you would get killed there for flying the flag of a foreign country if the government did not agree with it. SImple respect for the country that protects you. It's also the country that slaughtered unarmed women and children at Wounded Knee, threw Japanese into internment camps, and executed a woman holding a baby because her husband cut a shotgun barrel below the magical length approved by the Feds. It's the country that will commit assault and battery and kidnapping if someone carries a scary switchblade. That's what the flag means to some people. Funny thing about symbols.
Knot Wize Posted March 22, 2013 Author Posted March 22, 2013 (edited) I fire off explosives on the Fourth of July, I read American history, and I take part in the American legal system. Why do I have to fly a flag in order to respect the Country that protects me? I have no political or patriotic ties here. If the government decides to ship all the Catholics to England, I'll say good riddance. America is the country I live in, not the thing I live and die for. To bad you didn't learn anything reading American history. At least realize that there are ones who died for your right to feel that way. If not, you would be speaking German or Japanese right now. Edited March 22, 2013 by Knot Wize
PhuturePriest Posted March 22, 2013 Posted March 22, 2013 The Vatican is a country, not just the Roman Catholic Church. Nothing is wrong with proclaiming your faith. And? Whose business is it if I pledge allegiance to the Vatican and not to America? Besides, the Vatican flag is mostly for representing the Church, not the country itself, if it can really be called a country.
PhuturePriest Posted March 22, 2013 Posted March 22, 2013 At least realize that there are ones who died for your right to feel that way. If not, you would be speaking German right now. First off, I'm 80% German, so speaking German isn't foreign to my bloodline. Secondly, flying a flag is not for respecting soldiers. Flying the American flag is symbolic to who your allegiance goes to. My allegiance goes to the Church and the Pope, not Uncle Sam and the FBI.
Knot Wize Posted March 22, 2013 Author Posted March 22, 2013 And? Whose business is it if I pledge allegiance to the Vatican and not to America? Besides, the Vatican flag is mostly for representing the Church, not the country itself, if it can really be called a country. Don't like it... Canada and Mexico are only a day or two away. Nothing is forcing you to stay here.
Winchester Posted March 22, 2013 Posted March 22, 2013 The flag means many things, to me. I stand for the pledge and the anthem because of what it means to others, and those others are very important, to me.
Knot Wize Posted March 22, 2013 Author Posted March 22, 2013 Future Priest? I see why Mr. Voris has a lot of work to do.. I pray I never get you as my Chaplin.
Winchester Posted March 22, 2013 Posted March 22, 2013 Don't like it... Canada and Mexico are only a day or two away. Nothing is forcing you to stay here. That's certainly what the Founders did.
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