Luigi Posted February 16, 2014 Posted February 16, 2014 Next, can we play, "How Many Angels Can Dance on the Head of a Pin?"
WillT Posted February 17, 2014 Posted February 17, 2014 Wait being affected by time and Gravity is part of the curse of original sin? I am Confused. You don't remember that passage in Genesis where Adam and Eve are floating around weightless? Why do you think it's called the "Fall?"
reminiscere Posted February 17, 2014 Posted February 17, 2014 The Franciscan tradition is that Our Lady lived until 72 (that is why in the Franciscan Crown, two extra Ave's are added at the end). Secondly the tradition is that Our Lady being free of original sin did not suffer labor pains. Our Lord came into the world through His Mother really and truly passing through as a ray of sun through a glass pane. As far as I know all approved private revelations (Emmerich, Mary of Agreda etc.) are clear that Our Lady didn't suffer during labor at all. This was a punishment imposed by God on women for Eve's sin. The New Eve, always free from all original and actual sin, did not deserve this pain and did not suffer it.
Eliakim Posted March 6, 2014 Author Posted March 6, 2014 this question is not at all to be compared with such trivialities as the number of angels dancing on a pin. This question goes to the heart of one of the most famous ex-cathedra pronouncements in history. So pay attention whoever said that. Why would Mary get old if she didn't have original sin since as many already admit she did not suffer labor pains on account of her preservation from original sin? Is not death and decay one of the effects of original sin? E
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