Worst Presidents?

[littleflower+JMJ]

today, our country demands happiness at the expense of someone's life (i.e abortion and euthnasia and much more of this sort, and has become disorted and abused since then.....

like the Pope said, "Rights are at times reduced to self-centered demands: the growth of prostitution and pornography in the name of adult choice, the acceptance of abortion in the name of women's rights, the approval of same sex unions in the name of homosexual rights"

and....

"Ambiguous moral positions, the distortion of reason by particular interest groups ... are just some examples of a perspective of life which fails to seek truth itself and then abandons the search for the ultimate goal and meaning of human existence,""

^ this is what its filled of today......which makes me glad for our current president....

for our "American society is in danger of surrendering to a "soulless vision of life."

thats why i agreed with Al. he made perfect sense.

that is all.

[crusader1234]

I have an intense dislike for Bush... however...

[quote]first comes the right to life. then the right to liberty. then the right to the persuit of happiness.[/quote]

I AGREE!

[littleflower+JMJ]

oh and iacobus i love you too

[Crusader_4]

Like my msn name says right now "Its a Shame that a child must die so you can live the way you want" -Mother Teresa

[Ash Wednesday]

[quote]What made the Clintion pres bad policywise? I mean I can see disliking them because of the whole sex thing. But that wasn't a policy. I really can't think of any real bad things. Plus he supported and signed Federal Defenseive MArraige act. So I don't know the isse with him. Can someone please tell me. It doesn't look like anyone has posted it yet but 10 voted so I ask.[/quote]

I didn't vote for Clinton on this poll... hmm in fact I haven't actually voted in this poll. But one glaringly bad thing Clinton did was veto the ban on partial birth abortion that was passed by congress.

Personally, I think President Kennedy is overrated. But he was the most young, charismatic president in history, and he died young. That's why he is popular to this day and viewed in a positive light.

[Iacobus]

ANything other than PBA, I heard that but was unsure.

[popestpiusx]

Top three worst in American history:

1)Abe Lincoln
2)Woodrow Wilson
3)FDR

after that it is a toss up
Jefferson supported the French Revolution.
Clinton was a scumbag socialist who sold nuclear secrets to the commies (amongst other things).
Kennedy was a scumbag (with terrible foreign policy AND bought his election).
Grant was worthless in the sense that his presidency was extrmely corrupt (though he was not a bad guy, it was those he placed around himself).
Carter was just worthless (should have stayed on the Peanut farm).
Johnson (Andrew that is) I don't actually mind that much. He just inherited a nasty state of affairs in post "War between the States" America.

The key though is that the vast majority of nastiness in this country has been a direct result of Abe Lincoln and his disregard for the Constitution. No other president (or congress or Supreme Ct.) since him could have done what they did were it not for him.

Edited June 8, 2004 by popestpiusx

[Iacobus]

[quote name='popestpiusx' date='Jun 7 2004, 11:59 PM'] Top three worst in American history:

1)Abe Lincoln
2)Woodrow Wilson
3)FDR

after that it is a toss up
Jefferson supported the French Revolution.
Clinton was a scumbag socialist who sold nuclear secrets to the commies (amongst other things).
Kennedy was a scumbag (with terrible foreign policy AND bought his election).
Grant was worthless in the sense that his presidency was extrmely corrupt (though he was not a bad guy, it was those he placed around himself).
Carter was just worthless (should have stayed on the Peanut farm).
Johnson (Andrew that is) I don't actually mind that much. He just inherited a nasty state of affairs in post "War between the States" America.

The key though is that the vast majority of nastiness in this country has been a direct result of Abe Lincoln and his disregard for the Constitution.  No other president (or congress or Supreme Ct.) since him could have done what they did were it not for him. [/quote]
Okay reasons for not liking FDR or Wilson? I mean I can respect not liking them and thinging them bad but any reasons why. You didn't list any.

Jefferson supported the French Revolution.
Okay. So he did. Why? Because the French helped us overthrow a monacry so we owed them. We are the USF. Without them we are nothing. So Jefferson, a man of honor and respect, support them in toppling a evil rule. What is bad about that?

Clintion did? Thats news to me. I heard that they thought some scienteist did than found them not guilty. Hmmm. Support?

Kennedy, bad forgein policy? How so? Defending freedom? Doing what Ike would have done? Doing what Truman would have done.

Grant was corrupt, yes. But was one of his policys corrupting the goverment?

Carter was worthless? The 70's were a bad time. The US ecomony was burned out after the "best of both" years during Nam. 1970-1979 GDP does not meet one year of the 1960's. Or 50's. Nobody could have done good than.

Andrew Johnson has good poilices but lacked the will of Lincon. Speaking of which.. how can you not mind Johnson but dislike Lincon because many of Johnsons things were remeants of Lincon?